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Re:Brown Political Review Interviews Paul Graham by keiferski on Thursday March 12, 2020 @02:57PM (#22560411)
> The fact that people feel comfortable making such sweeping judgements on a wide-ranging and deep discipline is frankly shocking. You're not alone, however; the gwern.net guy has done the same.

It's par for the course in tech, unfortunately. I think tech leadership in particular would benefit from a rigorous education in ethics.

Re:Brown Political Review Interviews Paul Graham by barry-cotter on Friday March 13, 2020 @08:56AM (#22566858)
> I think tech leadership in particular would benefit from a rigorous education in ethics.

I’m not aware of any evidence that education in ethics leads to more ethical behavior though it obviously leads to being able to discuss ethical problems better. The evidence suggests ethicists steal more books than other philosophers[1].

]1] Do ethicists steal more books? Eric Schwitzgebel

If explicit cognition about morality promotes moral behavior then one might expect ethics professors to behave particularly well. However, professional ethicists’ behavior has never been empirically studied. The present research examined the rates at which ethics books are missing from leading academic libraries, compared to other philosophy books similar in age and popularity. Study 1 found that relatively obscure, contemporary ethics books of the sort likely to be borrowed mainly by professors and advanced students of philosophy were actually about 50% more likely to be missing than non-ethics books. Study 2 found that classic (pre-1900) ethics books were about twice as likely to be missing.

Re:Brown Political Review Interviews Paul Graham by keiferski on Friday March 13, 2020 @10:45AM (#22567634)
This is such a hilarious bad study that I'm surprised anyone could link to it seriously. The theft rate of ethics books are stolen from "top academic libraries" is supposed to reflect on the overall effectiveness of ethical education? Sorry, but this is an abuse of the term "scientific study."
Re:Brown Political Review Interviews Paul Graham by barry-cotter on Friday March 13, 2020 @11:38AM (#22568092)
Do you have any evidence that learning about ethics leads to more ethical behavior?
Re:Brown Political Review Interviews Paul Graham by keiferski on Friday March 13, 2020 @12:28PM (#22568614)
This is an enormously complex question which depends on first answering questions like what "learning about ethics" and "ethical behavior" mean.

In any case, this paper covers most of the objections you are raising and answers them quite well, IMO:

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.2202/1940-1639.1613

Re:Brown Political Review Interviews Paul Graham by choonway on Thursday March 12, 2020 @10:46PM (#22564255)
really? ethics? so.. which standards of ethics do you think leaders should adhere to? so many to choose from...