Warriors to play without fans in crowd following San Francisco order

Re:Warriors to play without fans in crowd following San Fran... by bgorman on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @03:35PM (#22549603)

Where does the authority come from to ban public events, forcibly quarantine individuals against their consent come from? I.e. if this went to the supreme court, would this be upheld? This is private property. From what I can tell there is little evidence that there is a large health risk to most of the population.

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Re:Warriors to play without fans in crowd following San Fran... by slicebo123 on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @03:39PM (#22549647)

I'm not lawyer, but if I recall correctly, that power derives from this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_power_%28United_States_...

Less clear to me if that applies to forcible quarantine, but seems like it would definitely apply to public events.

On the point of large health risk, it doesn't seem unreasonable to me that every Warriors game is a perfect vector for community spread. I'm sure the health care professionals in the Bay Area would applaud this move.

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Re:Warriors to play without fans in crowd following San Fran... by jrowley on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @03:40PM (#22549664)

It's a Public Health Order supported by California state law.

> UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF CALIFORNIA HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE SECTIONS 101040, 101085, AND 120175, THE HEALTH OFFICER OF THE CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO

Also it's hard to understate how devastating this virus can be if it spreads quickly. e.g. for people > 80 years old the mortality rate is 15%

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-death-age-older-...

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Re:Warriors to play without fans in crowd following San Fran... by aggie on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @03:41PM (#22549667)

> From what I can tell there is little evidence that there is a large health risk to most of the population.

These measures will absolutely prevent a significant number of people from dying. Does it matter if that population is not 'most' people?

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Re:Warriors to play without fans in crowd following San Fran... by bgorman on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @04:06PM (#22549908)

Smoking cigarettes is legal in California, as is splitting lanes on a motorcycle. There is risk inherent in living life.

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Re:Warriors to play without fans in crowd following San Fran... by sjeuueheh on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @03:48PM (#22549751)

Significant compared to what? By the metrics this is no different than flu season with lots of hysteria lumped on.

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Re:Warriors to play without fans in crowd following San Fran... by mikeyouse on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @05:13PM (#22550720)

Just FYI - the best case scenario is a CFR of 10x the flu. All those stupid "Over 20,000 people die from the flu every year, so don't worry" posts are going to look really bad if 200,000 people die.

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Re:Warriors to play without fans in crowd following San Fran... by nathanaldensr on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @03:42PM (#22549675)

I'm looking forward to discovering the answer. What if I hold a church service with 500 attendees. Do the police come and forcibly remove people from a private gathering? That's a clear violation of several Constitutional rights, of course.

Is this more of a "wink wink, nudge nudge" situation where corporations need government to "shut it all down" because the corporations don't want to lose face by appearing paranoid?

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Re:Warriors to play without fans in crowd following San Fran... by TulliusCicero on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @04:07PM (#22549914)

Even constitutional rights have limits. Free speech is limited by laws around slander/libel, and you can't incite to immediate violence. Freedom of religion doesn't mean you get an 'out' for laws that contradict your teachings (usually).

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Re:Warriors to play without fans in crowd following San Fran... by empath75 on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @03:51PM (#22549780)

Thankfully most people aren't sociopaths so this is unlikely to get tested in the courts.

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