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Re:Redwood: An integrated, full-stack, JavaScript web framew... by dmitriid on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @05:45AM (#22544412)
Rails didn't load 286 KB of Javascript to display static text and sidebar though.

If you go to https://redwoodjs.com/ right now and disable Javascript on the page, you will get the same amazing fast experience at literally 5-10x less size. The only difference? The sidebar in the tutorial will not display properly.

JS enabled: 403KB transferred, 1.0MB resources. Of them: 276 KB JS, 82 KB images, 27 KB custom fonts, 10 KB HTML, 5.5 KB CSS

JS disabled: 99 KB transferred, 142 KB resources. Of them: (0 JS, 0 custom fonts), 82 KB images, 10 KB HTML, 5.5 KB CSS

Re:Redwood: An integrated, full-stack, JavaScript web framew... by pistoriusp on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @06:23AM (#22544569)
Part of our story is to make sure we only bundle what matters... We're not there yet, but we're going to make this first class and intuitive.