Re:Saturn's largest moon may be the only place beyond Earth ...
by AnimalMuppet on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @02:52PM
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> the escape velocity from Mars requires a massive rocket equivalent to the one we use to leave Earth and therefore more fuel leaving less payload for delivering other resources or supplies
Wait, what? Isn't escape velocity from Mars lower than that from Venus? The surface gravity is far lower on Mars.
I also note that you list "no surrounding breathable atmosphere" as a negative for a rotating space station, but the surrounding atmosphere on Venus isn't exactly breathable either...
Re:Saturn's largest moon may be the only place beyond Earth ...
by scrumbledober on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @03:17PM
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i'm not sure how the math works out but you would be launching from a much much higher altitude than ground level on venus, whereas on mars you would be launching from roughly ground level.
Re:Saturn's largest moon may be the only place beyond Earth ...
by xref on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @02:41PM
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I’d throw in if a rotating station is still in LEO (seems likely for a first attempt) it would have the benefit of Earth’s magnetic field for shielding. Not if used for traveling to another body though.
Re:Saturn's largest moon may be the only place beyond Earth ...
by LargoLasskhyfv on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @07:20PM
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Like presumably "the Ancients" did? https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/f5s2f4/the_unus...
Starting at about 8M55S he decribes some interesting aspects of the so called two day orbit.
Anyways, it is OUTSIDE the magnetic field. But would it really matter if you have the technology to build a space station big enough to have rotational gravity? I'd imagine we'd cover that with regolith mass driven from the moon, or something like that.
Re:Saturn's largest moon may be the only place beyond Earth ...
by ggffryuuj on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @02:40PM
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Literally everything you said is wrong except projectiles and space stations. Magnetic fields are easy to make. Wind storms and unbreathable air and radiation and projectiles don’t matter if you’re underground. The idea that a floating city is better than a city cemented in soil is laughable. Good luck maintaining that Teflon coating on literally every exterior surface.
Mars: -inhospitable temperatures not suitable for human or plant life -explosive decompression due to a micro-meteorite causing a hole -no atmosphere to protect against radiation or projectiles -weak magnetic field providing no protection -violent unpredictable wind storms on the surface -unbreathable atmosphere -the escape velocity from Mars requires a massive rocket equivalent to the one we use to leave Earth and therefore more fuel leaving less payload for delivering other resources or supplies -the distance is 6 months to 1 year depending on the window of opportunity, leading to some NASA scientists to suggest we should find it acceptable that it as a suicide mission with no hope of return
Rotating space station: -high risk from impacts -no atmosphere to protect against radiation or projectiles -no magnetic field providing no protection -danger from space debris from previous missions -no surrounding breathable atmosphere -close distance makes resupplying and re-crewing more tenable -requires constant fuel and attention to not de-orbit -does not establish a permanent residence -not a base of significant distance for further operations to the rest of the solar system