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Re:Tips for the depressed by PragmaticPulp on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @01:44PM (#22537622)
> I’ve done a lot of research and I think psychiatry is pseudoscience and antidepressants are largely placebo.

Please don't spread anti-psychiatry misinformation online. I'm sorry that it didn't work for you, but please don't dissuade others from seeking proper treatment.

Playing devil's advocate: Even if SSRIs are just placebo (they're definitely not, and we have decades of science to explain why that's a false statement), what would be wrong with that? Placebo is remarkably effective, and even placebo is even getting stronger with time: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/straight-talk/201803...

This is where people are mistaken when they conclude SSRIs are placebo. SSRIs still diverge from placebo, but placebo is so incredibly powerful in short depression studies that it's hard for SSRIs' superiority to reach a numerically large statistical significance.

> I’m really on the mindfulness bandwagon

Mindfulness is a common therapy technique within professional treatment. I think you'd find that a lot of the mainstream self-care practices are mirrored in professionally-guided therapy. However, some people just can't/won't trust professional institutions, so at least we have mainstream pushes for mindfulness and self-care to slip these techniques in the back door.

Re:Tips for the depressed by ditonal on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @02:18PM (#22537983)
Many people are upset I called antidepressant placebo. It’s obviously a huge discussion out of the scope of this thread. But keep in mind that companies make a ton of money selling SSRIs and _still_ have trouble differentiating results from placebo, despite arguable massive publication bias influenced by big pharm.

Furthermore the metrics for these things are the most subjective thing in the world, surveys of humans. Most statisticians consider that data very low value but it’s the foundation of modern psychiatry.

Placebo is great if it works, sure, but psych meds have a long list of side effects. It’s be better to get placebo healed by your local witch doctor than a medical doctor, if you’re just relying on placebo.

Again it’s a big discussion and of course I’m open minded to learning more but on the flip side a lot of people take modern psychiatry as infallible medicine despite a lot of flaws.

Re:Tips for the depressed by cheeko1234 on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @04:31PM (#22539364)
I agree. The book Lost Connections goes in depth into how all antidepressants are either same as placebo or better by a statistically negligible amount. (Oversimplified but the book does a good job).

https://www.amazon.com/Lost-Connections-Uncovering-Depressio...

Re:Tips for the depressed by blackflame7000 on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @04:09PM (#22539132)
It's also misinformation to assume SSRI's work the same way for everyone. For my mother, antidepressants made her suicidal.
Re:Tips for the depressed by nikofeyn on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @01:49AM (#22543359)
> It's also misinformation to assume SSRI's work the same way for everyone.

the person you replied to didn't say that. the point is to defer to professionals and not your own hunches.

Re:Tips for the depressed by ta999999171 on Thursday March 12, 2020 @12:17PM (#22558362)
Professionals prescribe these long-term to people, even though something like 5/7 cases never get good results.
Re:Tips for the depressed by sunnytimes on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @04:20PM (#22539269)
so did my psoriasis pills .. great now i have fucked skin and wanna kill myself. at least without the pills i just had one of those. neither helps my depression tho.