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Re:Detroit to restore water to allow people to wash hands to... by AstralStorm on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @08:54AM (#22534973)
Yes, that is exactly why everyone is in lockdown, because there is enough panic and nothing more can be done. So anything that seems politically acceptable is being done. It won't be effective and is at best false sense of security. It is about as effective as quarantining kids after mumps outbreaks, which is not much, and this thing spreads quicker. The question is not if, but when you will be infected, and if your immune system will be able to handle it. For most, it will be a cold, for the others where it won't, unless they have their own hardware, they're screwed. As seen in Italy. Chinese were able to spin up hospitals, most everyone else does not have enough hardware.

Hospitals get overloaded with about few hundred cases, give or take.

Coronavirus tests are not effective preventative measures. (Not yet anyway.)

Good pulse oximeter costs maybe $20, an O2 tank with hardware and mask $80-100. If you cannot afford that, you're literally screwed. I bet you would pay more off a copay for a bed in the US. If that's the case, good luck.

If you cannot afford food, you're also screwed, there's no charity that will help. As a reminder, many people died from Spanish Flu due to malnutrition. And old age. This combination is also problematic for COVID-19. Strict isolation measures do not work reliably against this kind of virus. They did not work for flu nor for cold, they won't for this one. They can at best slow it down a bit and delay, which is ok if you use this time to do something meaningful - China did, others cannot.

Government could try to help with this but US is allergic to handouts. There is enough food and production capability to distribute rations if need be. I hope they're being stockpiled. Probably are not.

Re:Detroit to restore water to allow people to wash hands to... by lm28469 on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @09:01AM (#22535017)
> It won't be effective and is at best false sense of security. It is about as effective as quarantining kids after mumps outbreaks

The whole point of slowing down (or stopping) movements is to slow down the spread enough to let hospitals handle as few sick people at once as possible. Western europeans countries have very good health systems as long as they're not overcrowded. It really isn't rocket science. If you have 2000 beds and 6000 sick people you're fucked, if you have the same amount of beds and a continuous flow of low amount of sick people spread over weeks or months it's just a bit worse than business as usual.

It's not panicking, it's taking steps to ensure the virus doesn't get more serious than it is.

Re:Detroit to restore water to allow people to wash hands to... by AstralStorm on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @10:26AM (#22535699)
Recovery takes too long for such preventative measures to matter at all. It increases the delay but does not reduce load.

The hospitals explode almost immediately with medium to hard cases.

(We know thanks to Chinese data that recovery can easily be a month for harder cases. We know how fast medical systems get overwhelmed, and how much overcapacity would be necessary.)

Re:Detroit to restore water to allow people to wash hands to... by lm28469 on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @10:40AM (#22535806)
Well, we'll see how it develops, it's too early to tell but it'll be easy to compare France/Italy to the US.
Re:Detroit to restore water to allow people to wash hands to... by bequestry on Tuesday March 10, 2020 @10:20AM (#22535631)
Not op but want to comment on how similar the situation is to something ycombinator folks might have more experience with: its essentially a DDOS attack, because the time it takes to scale resources to meet demand is longer than the rate of growth of requests.