Re:REPL Debugging: No Stacktrace Required (2017)
by yogthos on Monday March 09, 2020 @03:35PM
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If commercial usage of the language by companies big and small around the world along with funding of the ecosystem is not an indication of mainstream usage, then I guess we'll have to disagree on what constitutes mainstream.
Re:REPL Debugging: No Stacktrace Required (2017)
by lispm on Monday March 09, 2020 @04:10PM
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Right, a few users don't make something mainstream. Big companies have thousands of developers - even non IT companies - that someone inside some big company uses a programming language doesn't make it an indicator for widespread (most people use something -> mainstream) usage.
Mainstream: large relative and absolute numbers of users.
For example the Porsche Taycan (-> Microsoft) is not a mainstream car, even though Bill Gates has one and Porsche is an incredible profitable company. https://www.economist.com/business/2019/09/12/porsche-is-sma...
Obviously it says nothing about the number. If we look at the number of downloads of the current version, it's ~40000. Now many systems may download it multiple times. So the number is not an indicator for a large user community.
> Wonder why you didn't mention anything about Clojurists Together, doesn't fit your narrative? https://www.clojuriststogether.org/members/
It 'fits my narrative' well. Just count the number of the members.
Don't get me wrong, that's all fine and useful in a small community, but to claim a handful of companies and a few hundred people is an indicator of a mainstream popularity is just massive overselling and looks 'silly' (to quote you again, sorry).