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Re:IBM doubles its 14nm EDRAM density, adds hundreds of mega... by baybal2 on Sunday March 08, 2020 @09:52PM (#22522225)
Its all about how fast the memory is.

960MiB is prodigiously large for such a microscopic chip, but if it "only" gain 3-5 times latency reduction over external DRAM, it's still very far from a proper L3 implementation, and far behind L2.

Make DRAM work on 1Ghz+, and then you will see miracles. Imagine a fully synchronous on-die DRAM that can sit just behind L1, or even be connected to load registers directly.

The problem is that effective frequencies for memory round-trip haven't got up much since nineties. If you work with 100% cache misses, your mem will still be working at effective frequency of around 100 to 200Mhz

Re:IBM doubles its 14nm EDRAM density, adds hundreds of mega... by Dylan16807 on Monday March 09, 2020 @02:45AM (#22523451)
> If you work with 100% cache misses, your mem will still be working at effective frequency of around 100 to 200Mhz

I think you mean 20MHz. Current DRAM is abysmal at random access.

Re:IBM doubles its 14nm EDRAM density, adds hundreds of mega... by baybal2 on Monday March 09, 2020 @04:44AM (#22523917)
Yes, more so like this if you discard how it looks from the electrical side.

Even after bytes arrive to DRAM controller analog side, a lot of things have to happen before the data gets to the register. This accounts for the further five to tenfold increase in round trip latency

Re:IBM doubles its 14nm EDRAM density, adds hundreds of mega... by RantyDave on Monday March 09, 2020 @07:04AM (#22524418)
Oh no, it's paging to ram.