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Why does Alexa / Google Nest harm wireless networks?

I work for a WISP and do lots of housecalls where the internet has gotten slow.

I've learned a strange lesson through repeated experiences: After checking all other known variables, the question must be asked:

"Ok, do you have an Alexa?" (or Google nest).

A surprising amount of the time the answer is "Oh yes!" and by unplugging it, we find it's as though we had performed a technological exorcism. All the bandwidth demons are gone.

It's not only a bandwidth thing. Google Nest and Alexa completely crowd out other devices, and do something to the router where you can't even get an IP without powercycling it. I don't mean to be vulgar, but Nest and Alexa seem to gang rape everything on the network.

I haven't taken it as far as bringing one home and watching it's activity, to spy on the spy. One thing I can confirm, though, is that the bandwidth issues do not always come from Alexa / Google using the internet.

I've seen a lot of WISPY people on hackernews, so I thought I'd throw this question out there.

( 5 comments | 4 points | on HN )
Re:Why does Alexa / Google Nest harm wireless networks? by wmf on Wednesday March 04, 2020 @10:07PM (#22490594)
Somehow tens of millions of people don't have this problem. Is there a particular router model involved?
Re:Why does Alexa / Google Nest harm wireless networks? by puggo on Wednesday March 04, 2020 @10:17PM (#22490648)
Generally Netgear, TP-Link, and sometimes Microtik are used. Netgear and TP-Link seem to both have the same clash.
Re:Why does Alexa / Google Nest harm wireless networks? by puggo on Wednesday March 04, 2020 @10:14PM (#22490631)
Not really. I do know the network they are on has a few extra security protocols (such as no torrent allowed).
Re:Why does Alexa / Google Nest harm wireless networks? by ironfootnz on Wednesday March 04, 2020 @10:26PM (#22490697)
Probably uploading people's voices to their Data Centre and may take a bit of the bandwidth.
Re:Why does Alexa / Google Nest harm wireless networks? by puggo on Wednesday March 04, 2020 @10:39PM (#22490745)
Also it's Ubiquity network. May be relevant.