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Re:Fed cuts half point in emergency move amid spreading virus by rbinv on Tuesday March 03, 2020 @10:37AM (#22475303)
What would be the endgame here?
Re:Fed cuts half point in emergency move amid spreading virus by Erlich_Bachman on Tuesday March 03, 2020 @12:08PM (#22476394)
Just default on the debt far far down the line. Seing as how USD is still the reserve currency and they can still print, very far down the line. Keep borrowing from the future like there is no tomorrow until then, hopelly making sure the music doesn't stop playing during your political mandate period so you can get blamed for it.
Re:Fed cuts half point in emergency move amid spreading virus by aazaa on Tuesday March 03, 2020 @10:44AM (#22475384)
I suspect it will nurture a massive structural problem few today would understand or care much about. It will be allowed to grow unabated because, frankly, there will be bigger fish to fry.

Maybe a little like subprime leading up to 2008. The problem was written off by just about everyone who bothered to look, until something snapped and it was the only thing that mattered.

We may be seeing the start of this in the repo market, which once again had a convulsion today. I doubt many care about it or really understand it, and that goes double for policy makers.

Re:Fed cuts half point in emergency move amid spreading virus by mullingitover on Tuesday March 03, 2020 @10:45AM (#22475404)
What's the term for when the government owns all the industries?
Re:Fed cuts half point in emergency move amid spreading virus by lotsofpulp on Tuesday March 03, 2020 @10:49AM (#22475448)
Also, what is it when everyone owns them (in varying ownership percentages of course) via index ETFs?
Re:Fed cuts half point in emergency move amid spreading virus by indigo945 on Tuesday March 03, 2020 @11:45AM (#22476127)
Marx was wrong not about if, but about how the workers would take control of the means of production!
Re:Fed cuts half point in emergency move amid spreading virus by lotsofpulp on Tuesday March 03, 2020 @12:03PM (#22476330)
That's the beauty of it, since the workers still don't control the means of production. But they do depend on the valuation of their "portfolios", so they're invested in the continued existence of the system, and they're pitted against each other as they are both labor and owners. But not enough owners to matter.
Re:Fed cuts half point in emergency move amid spreading virus by tclover on Tuesday March 03, 2020 @01:46PM (#22477516)
FED is not the government
Re:Fed cuts half point in emergency move amid spreading virus by resters on Tuesday March 03, 2020 @12:51PM (#22476884)
I think there are multiple useful lenses for thinking about this:

- Signaling that the Fed is willing to get involved to stabilize market prices (by making capital cheaper) is meant to calm markets and give participants comfort about making decisions today that they could optionally wait to decide. If everyone goes into a holding pattern, liquidity is impacted, which can cause all sorts of unpredictable price movement.

- it is a wealth transfer from one group to another. The beneficiaries are existing debtors (mostly firms) and firms who benefit most from cheaper capital.

- it gives the Fed slightly more influence over the outcome of the 2020 election, since reversal of the Covid-19 rate decrease can be timed to create desirable optics as the election approaches. Much research has been done about the most critical time period prior to the election when "it's the economy, stupid" is most true.

Re:Fed cuts half point in emergency move amid spreading virus by znt on Tuesday March 03, 2020 @11:25AM (#22475902)
Stock bubble -> Stock crash -> More QE -> QE fails -> Bond crash & Govt crisis -> Currency crash -> Commodities skyrocket -> Civil chaos
Re:Fed cuts half point in emergency move amid spreading virus by scarmig on Tuesday March 03, 2020 @10:43AM (#22475379)
A long-lived Nikkei-style "bull run."