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Re:‘Re-education’, forced labour and surveillance beyond Xin... by bespokedevelopr on Sunday March 01, 2020 @12:56PM (#22458077)
here is the list of companies they named as using Uyghur labor,

>In all, ASPI’s research has identified 83 foreign and Chinese companies directly or indirectly benefiting from the use of Uyghur workers outside Xinjiang through potentially abusive labour transfer programs as recently as 2019: Abercrombie & Fitch, Acer, Adidas, Alstom, Amazon, Apple, ASUS, BAIC Motor, BMW, Bombardier, Bosch, BYD, Calvin Klein, Candy, Carter’s, Cerruti 1881, Changan Automobile, Cisco, CRRC, Dell, Electrolux, Fila, Founder Group, GAC Group (automobiles), Gap, Geely Auto, General Electric, General Motors, Google, H&M, Haier, Hart Schaffner Marx, Hisense, Hitachi, HP, HTC, Huawei, iFlyTek, Jack & Jones, Jaguar, Japan Display Inc., L.L.Bean, Lacoste, Land Rover, Lenovo, LG, Li-Ning, Mayor, Meizu, Mercedes-Benz, MG, Microsoft, Mitsubishi, Mitsumi, Nike, Nintendo, Nokia, The North Face, Oculus, Oppo, Panasonic, Polo Ralph Lauren, Puma, Roewe, SAIC Motor, Samsung, SGMW, Sharp, Siemens, Skechers, Sony, TDK, Tommy Hilfiger, Toshiba, Tsinghua Tongfang, Uniqlo, Victoria’s Secret, Vivo, Volkswagen, Xiaomi, Zara, Zegna, ZTE. Some brands are linked with multiple factories.

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Re:‘Re-education’, forced labour and surveillance beyond Xin... by anticensor on Sunday March 01, 2020 @01:24PM (#22458248)
Very few multinational giants remain if you protest all these.
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Re:‘Re-education’, forced labour and surveillance beyond Xin... by josefx on Sunday March 01, 2020 @01:58PM (#22458469)
Wasn't the same true for child labor in various industries? Seems like outlawing slavery doesn't get rid of the slave owners, instead they just move to the next unprotected group.
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Re:‘Re-education’, forced labour and surveillance beyond Xin... by Melting_Harps on Sunday March 01, 2020 @03:12PM (#22458979)
> Wasn't the same true for child labor in various industries? Seems like outlawing slavery doesn't get rid of the slave owners, instead they just move to the next unprotected group.

Yup, many of those megacorps took that page directly from the IMF and World Bank.

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Re:‘Re-education’, forced labour and surveillance beyond Xin... by missosoup on Sunday March 01, 2020 @04:30PM (#22459506)
Child labor is a tricky one because it's actually viewed as a positive in poor countries. The alternative isn't 'no child labor', it's other types of child exploitation like prostitution.

I don't have a reference but there was a follow up report in a poor region where commercial child labor was abolished, and the outcomes weren't great.

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Re:‘Re-education’, forced labour and surveillance beyond Xin... by imtringued on Monday March 02, 2020 @09:42AM (#22464787)
Child labor is often a net negative because children can't go to school. If employers had to ensure the children go to school then I could see how it could be a net benefit during the transition period.
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Re:‘Re-education’, forced labour and surveillance beyond Xin... by sounds on Sunday March 01, 2020 @01:56PM (#22458448)
Slavery is still wrong. Full stop.
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Re:‘Re-education’, forced labour and surveillance beyond Xin... by omginternets on Sunday March 01, 2020 @02:05PM (#22458522)
And there's no clear solution. Full stop.
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Re:‘Re-education’, forced labour and surveillance beyond Xin... by marcosdumay on Sunday March 01, 2020 @02:11PM (#22458558)
The solution is very clear. It just has to come from the government, not individual consumers.
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Re:‘Re-education’, forced labour and surveillance beyond Xin... by DyslexicAtheist on Sunday March 01, 2020 @04:25PM (#22459471)
calling your MP and making a stink works. Also public shaming on LinkedIn works by tagging their brands - they absolutely hate that (unless you're scared of your image in which case you're also part of the problem ofc).
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Re:‘Re-education’, forced labour and surveillance beyond Xin... by asdff on Sunday March 01, 2020 @04:25PM (#22459466)
There is no clear solution if you value profits over human life, you mean.
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Re:‘Re-education’, forced labour and surveillance beyond Xin... by omginternets on Sunday March 01, 2020 @06:02PM (#22460025)
No, I mean there's no clear solution. People in this thread are confusing the desired outcome with how to get there, and claiming that because the former is clear, so is the latter.
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