Re:Are ad blockers doomed or have we already won? A history ...
by Supermancho on Friday February 28, 2020 @12:52PM
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> they will lose the ability to be indexed, searched, archived and linked to
Sounds like an API that will be implemented.
Re:Are ad blockers doomed or have we already won? A history ...
by BiteCode_dev on Saturday February 29, 2020 @05:04AM
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If it's not standard, it will be useless. If it is, the browser will eventually put it in the users hand.
Re:Are ad blockers doomed or have we already won? A history ...
by three_seagrass on Friday February 28, 2020 @01:50PM
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Crawler bots are already doing site rendering and OCR. This isn't that big of a step for them.
Re:Are ad blockers doomed or have we already won? A history ...
by brnt on Friday February 28, 2020 @03:58PM
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TIL. Wow. I guess I missed the web is not HTML anymore.
Re:Are ad blockers doomed or have we already won? A history ...
by karatestomp on Friday February 28, 2020 @12:25PM
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Plenty of sites already give Google something different from what they show everyone else, right?
Re:Are ad blockers doomed or have we already won? A history ...
by jaywalk on Friday February 28, 2020 @12:45PM
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No, that's actually a great way to make Google penalize your site. It's explicitly against their Webmaster Guidelines: https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/66355
Re:Are ad blockers doomed or have we already won? A history ...
by postalrat on Friday February 28, 2020 @02:54PM
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Tell that to linkedin, pinterest, and dozens of news sites.
Re:Are ad blockers doomed or have we already won? A history ...
by username90 on Friday February 28, 2020 @04:35PM
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Linkedin used to trick people into thinking you have to pay to see someones profile when you can see it just fine by logging out. That is not against Googles policy. Not sure if they still do that, but I used the logout trick a lot a few years ago.
Re:Are ad blockers doomed or have we already won? A history ...
by nitwit005 on Friday February 28, 2020 @03:54PM
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Google does document a way to mark paywalled content and have it indexed without it being considered cloaking: https://developers.google.com/search/docs/data-types/paywall...
Re:Are ad blockers doomed or have we already won? A history ...
by slig on Friday February 28, 2020 @12:56PM
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Big properties do that and Google doesn't care.
Re:Are ad blockers doomed or have we already won? A history ...
by krisroadruck on Friday February 28, 2020 @01:17PM
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You sure about that? How big qualifies as big in your eyes? Medium implemented homepage cloaking in November of 2019 and within a month they lost 40% of their overall search visibility:
Re:Are ad blockers doomed or have we already won? A history ...
by zrobotics on Friday February 28, 2020 @01:56PM
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Pinterest? Google is somehow able to crawl images on their site, but I certainly can't view these images without creating an account and logging in. Their site ranks highly enough that I gave up on google image search last year.
Additionally, off the top of my head Bloomberg and NYT both won't allow me to view more than a few articles but let the Google crawler index their articles.
Re:Are ad blockers doomed or have we already won? A history ...
by jessaustin on Friday February 28, 2020 @02:05PM
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Yes Pinterest is awful. Certain categories of images are totally borked on Google and other search engines because of them.
Re:Are ad blockers doomed or have we already won? A history ...
by Karunamon on Friday February 28, 2020 @12:41PM
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I thought that was an offense that would get one either severely de-ranked or delisted from search outright?
Re:Are ad blockers doomed or have we already won? A history ...
by karatestomp on Friday February 28, 2020 @12:50PM
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What do paywalled sites do, then? They don't seem to have a problem ranking just fine.
Re:Are ad blockers doomed or have we already won? A history ...
by Karunamon on Friday February 28, 2020 @01:13PM
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They show the abstract or the same bit of the headline and maybe a paragraph you see when hitting the page. Googlebot doesn't get the full text.
Re:Are ad blockers doomed or have we already won? A history ...
by karatestomp on Friday February 28, 2020 @02:16PM
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I've definitely seen article text on Google that was not presented to me when I clicked the link, and not because the article was updated or something, but because I was blocked from seeing the article.
Which in turn will start a new trend of website that are "open".
It's a cycle.