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Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by Recursing on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @05:18PM (#22428009)
Shortages of what? Supermarkets in northern Italy have been restocking without problems, there is a shortage of N95 face masks on amazon, but they're not even proved to be useful for healthy people
Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by lancesells on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @05:51PM (#22428324)
I grew up in a hurricane-prone state in the US. 95% of the time people stock up and panic and nothing happens. I'm talking about gas shortages and empty aisles in the grocery store. But the 5% where something does happen you wish you stocked up because you're not even able to leave the area because there is no gas. Not debating N95 masks effectiveness but I would rather be at least slightly repaired because things go south really fast when people get hungry.
Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by Recursing on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @06:24PM (#22428607)
Maybe it's more common in the US as it's more sparsely populated? As in there are more potentially isolated cities?

The scenario you're describing doesn't seem plausible to happen in Milan

Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by munificent on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @07:02PM (#22428905)
> Maybe it's more common in the US as it's more sparsely populated? As in there are more potentially isolated cities?

My impression is that Europeans generally don't know what real severe weather is like. A hurricane that happens to hit close to a population center while it has a strong eyewall is incredibly devastating. Think of it like a tsunami, windstorm, and a family of tornadoes all at the same time.

The wind will knock down trees which crash into houses, block roads, and take down power lines. That alone means most of your human infrastructure is gone. Ambulances cannot reach you, you cannot get out, it's dark, communication technology stops working, you may be overheating without air conditioning, food quickly starts spoiling.

I lived in Orlando when Hurricane Charley hit. Thousands of giant live oak trees were blown over. The drive from my house to my girlfriend's normally took ten minutes. After the hurricane, it took me over an hour to get there because I had to contend with billboards in the road, downed power lines, and enormous trees blocking roads everywhere. Many places were simply inaccessible.

If you are close to the coast, add a storm surge to that. Mass flooding surges through neighborhoods. A tide of opaque, dirty, water containing all manner of dangerous debris. Roads are washed away, houses collapse. People drown. During Hurricane Katrina, a common failure mode was people who climbed into their attic to escape the rising floodwaters, only to get trapped in there and drown when the water level reached the attic itself. (Since then, New Orleanians learned not to go into your attic during a flood unless you bring an axe to chop through the roof.)

Most hurricanes are not this bad. They lose energy quickly when they make landfall and their strength diminishes with distance from the center. But there are half a dozen hurricanes every year and when you throw that many darts at the Gulf coast, eventually some of them will hit.

Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by Recursing on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @07:17PM (#22429021)
Thanks for the answer, it's very likely that it's mostly caused by the more likely extreme weather in the USA

The most similar thing that comes to mind is the last major earthquake, but even then I don't think stocking food would have been useful, the problems were rebuilding infrastructure and buildings, not shortages of stuff

Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by cycrutchfield on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @06:52PM (#22428837)
"It can't possibly happen here!" says increasingly nervous man.
Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by Recursing on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @07:19PM (#22429029)
Hi! Are you following me from the other thread? o.o

It's not "It can't possibly happen here!", more like "it hasn't happened in any place in western Europe in recent memory". We've had major earthquakes and stuff, but nothing that "stocking food" would have been useful for, (afaik)

Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by keiru on Monday March 02, 2020 @12:47PM (#22466754)
Which brings us back to the matter at hand; devastating plagues have happened many times in Europe. This one is probably not going to be devastating, but we really don't know the effect of this disruption in today's society.
Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by Recursing on Wednesday March 11, 2020 @10:58AM (#22546343)
Fully agree with this (especially considering the last few days), my disagreement was with the whole "prepping" thing, doesn't seem to be useful
Re:Ask HN: How are you preparing for COVID-19 disruptions? by jrs235 on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @05:27PM (#22428098)
There aren't shortages until there are. All seems normal until the tipping point. Don't go out and buy up 2 months of supplies in one swoop, unless you want to raise eyebrows and lead to the perception of shelves emptying and then causing it to come true. Buy a weeks worth of extra supplies every other day for a week or two.