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Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by thih9 on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @01:52PM (#22425951)
> You're in private mode. Subscribe to continue reading in private mode.

I didn't realise that Bloomberg blocks private mode too. Messages like this assume that tracking is the default and make sure that we keep losing privacy. I really dislike this trend.

Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by tylerhou on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @03:43PM (#22427118)
They detect your private mode using JavaScript; you can bypass by pausing script execution with the developer console immediately after the article loads.
Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by thih9 on Friday February 28, 2020 @04:37AM (#22441628)
It doesn't really work, some users get treated as bots, see: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22428193 .
Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by jfengel on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @03:08PM (#22426798)
I think it's more apt to put it that monetizing is the default. You could subscribe, though of course that's exposing even more than just tracking.

I suspect that if somebody were to invent a good anonymous micropayment system they'd be happy to adopt that instead. They just want to get paid; your privacy just happens to be the currency that's easiest to come by.

Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by salawat on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @04:24PM (#22427510)
>I suspect that if somebody were to invent a good anonymous micropayment system...

They'd also be guilty of of violating AML, KYC, and other money transfer regulations. It would get shut down faster than you can say "Wait! Don't do that!"

Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by Brendinooo on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @02:44PM (#22426523)
Firefox's containers make it easier to work around stuff like this.
Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by Scoundreller on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @09:12PM (#22429718)
Or TOR where NoScript is (should be?) the norm. Then they get less data to work with too.

Win-win!

Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by Brendinooo on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @10:45PM (#22430233)
Some pages that check for private mode or whatever won't work without JavaScript.
Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by ab_testing on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @03:28PM (#22426956)
Ublock > Disable Javascript > Read the article
Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by judge2020 on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @02:04PM (#22426083)
Even happening with a second Chrome profile, so it might be more heuristic-based than the previous tricks[0].

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20670596

Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by trophycase on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @06:37PM (#22428713)
Just leave, it's probably not worth your time anyway. And also why support Bloomberg who is trying to buy an election?
Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by BaitBlock on Thursday February 27, 2020 @12:39AM (#22430824)
Try Baitblock https://baitblock.app

Baitblock has tracking resistance that also deletes first party cookies/other tracking mechanisms when it detects that you're not logged into a website.

Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by the_svd_doctor on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @04:28PM (#22427543)
In Firefox, just click on "Reader mode" at the end of the address bar.
Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by rhizome on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @04:42PM (#22427665)
If CNN and WSJ are any indication, and I'm pretty sure they are, FF's reader mode is easily defeatable by div'ifying everything.
Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by svnpenn on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @01:54PM (#22425967)
I didnt get that, I tried with Firefox 72. Note I am also using uBO 1.25.0.
Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by TACIXAT on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @01:59PM (#22426015)
FF 73 and uBO 1.24.4 I still get it in a private window.
Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by jamil7 on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @04:05PM (#22427320)
Not sure how many here have tried it but it takes all kinds of tricks to scrape Bloomberg reliably. Not surprised they're doing something like this.
Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by egdod on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @04:19PM (#22427449)
Just turn off JavaScript.
Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by jamil7 on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @04:31PM (#22427567)
Huh, you're right. The last time I tried this (year ago) they would throw up a "Are you a robot" page.
Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by Paul-ish on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @05:36PM (#22428193)
I get that page if I turn off JS right now.
Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by aembleton on Thursday February 27, 2020 @07:55AM (#22432773)
Add ||assets.bwbx.io^$script,domain=bloomberg.com to your uBlock filters
Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by nonbirithm on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @02:35PM (#22426419)
Some sites have been getting smart and not doing the paywall logic client side, and will not send the entire article's text over HTTPS which allows archive.is to save it and reader mode to function. I think Longform also did this at some point.

I don't think it's about throwing away privacy for readers using reader mode, it's a matter of wanting to be compensated through the subscription model. Between the two, getting compensated won out.

Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by Hitton on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @02:45PM (#22426532)
https://old.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/b8z1li/how_to_get_p...

This userscript fixes that. Same protection is used in several other mainstream media websites. I have found one website which is broken by this userscript though, so I don't recommend using it with wildcard for all websites instead of the few which use this protection.

Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by auiya on Thursday February 27, 2020 @09:06AM (#22433306)
Or we could just... stop linking to properties owned by Michael Bloomberg altogether. That's also an option.
Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by toohotatopic on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @02:08PM (#22426133)
Why is that behavior in agreement with GDPR? Don't they have to provide their information without people having to share private data?
Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by probably_wrong on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @02:18PM (#22426248)
It's not, but that's the one big problem (IMHO) with GDPR: that it doesn't allow individuals to sue.

If I want to force them to either fall in line with the GDPR or get out of Europe, I need to find my local responsible agency, send them an email, and pray that they have the will and resources to act on it.

Re:Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock... by danieka on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @03:11PM (#22426819)
It does allow individuals to sue, and our right to justice is set out in article 79. It allows you to bring a suit to court in your (European) country of residence. You can sue for compensation for immaterial or material damages as set out in article 82. You should/might be able to sue for other things as well, such as forcing a company to delete data or provide you with a copy of data under processing. In Sweden there is case law where a claimant has received compensation for damages. So at least in Sweden court can be expected to award compensation when the case merits it.

I have myself brought two cases to court in Sweden, but settled before verdict. The reason I was able to settle is the verdict would probably have gone my way.

I agree with you that your local DPA is toothless. There are way to many cases for them to handle, that’s why we need to turn to the courts and not to our DPA to protect our rights.

Lastly, most claims will be small claims, that is, less than 1000 EUR. In small claims you’re only liable for a small portion of lawyers fee should you lose.

IANAL.