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Re:Google Plots Course to Overtake Cloud Rivals by monksy on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @05:24PM (#22418148)
How do they plan on doing that if they've downsized the group recently?
Re:Google Plots Course to Overtake Cloud Rivals by cameronbrown on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @05:34PM (#22418244)
Reorgs like this happen all the time at Google -- they didn't downsize Cloud, they found two parts of the business doing the same thing and merged them - so some people were redundant there.

They could've just let those employees go, but they are giving them time to find a new role (and paying them the whole time they're not working).

Disclaimer: Am a Google employee.

Re:Google Plots Course to Overtake Cloud Rivals by akhilcacharya on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @05:38PM (#22418271)
Isn’t that how layoffs at all large companies go?
Re:Google Plots Course to Overtake Cloud Rivals by kyrra on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @05:48PM (#22418364)
(googler, opinions are my own)

Btw, the "finding a new role" is easily within Google. One of the "cloud" teams that was defragged was in my office, and some of those people were people I've worked with over the years. Local management are trying to make sure they have places to land on other teams in the office.

Yes, they can look for new jobs externally, but this is how Google deals with cleaning up teams from time-to-time. Luckily Google is still hiring, and people moving to new teams tends to work out without much fuss.

Outside Google, I've seen the same behavior. A friend that worked at waffle.io got a similar 3-6 month transition window (find a new job internally or externally). They ended up staying at Broadcom, so it's a good way for companies to retain talent in a tight labor market.

Re:Google Plots Course to Overtake Cloud Rivals by CydeWeys on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @05:41PM (#22418300)
No. It's very much the exception, not the norm.
Re:Google Plots Course to Overtake Cloud Rivals by akhilcacharya on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @11:59PM (#22420407)
Ive heard of this happening at Cisco and HP while being termed a lay-off. Is it different?
Re:Google Plots Course to Overtake Cloud Rivals by mav3rick on Sunday March 01, 2020 @03:02AM (#22455744)
There is no such provision when Amazon lays off people
Re:Google Plots Course to Overtake Cloud Rivals by vlovich123 on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @05:28PM (#22418189)
Engineers are why things take so long to build. Without engineers things will build faster.
Re:Google Plots Course to Overtake Cloud Rivals by danudey on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @05:33PM (#22418239)
Someone read the mythical man-month and realized that more engineers doesn't make things faster, and can actually make things slower.

The next logical step is to hire fire people until you reach the optimal number, in some kind of binary search approach.

Re:Google Plots Course to Overtake Cloud Rivals by Ididntdothis on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @06:06PM (#22418522)
To some degree that’s true. Less engineers definitely can speed things up if they get autonomy.

At my company there are a lot of people talking about work, doing planning, scheduling and whatever. They don’t contribute much but also hold the engineers up with constant information requests.

Re:Google Plots Course to Overtake Cloud Rivals by xiphias2 on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @07:51PM (#22419244)
The days of autonomy for engineers at Google is over.

At this point product managers fight for their ideas to be implemented so that they can get promoted, even if it's an inferiour solution.

Re:Google Plots Course to Overtake Cloud Rivals by rsashwin on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @05:29PM (#22418201)
Made me chuckle
Re:Google Plots Course to Overtake Cloud Rivals by David on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @05:30PM (#22418208)
Can you point to a source here? I work on Google Cloud and I don't think I've heard anything like that.
Re:Google Plots Course to Overtake Cloud Rivals by paxys on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @05:33PM (#22418234)
More employees doesn't automatically mean more productivity/launches/success. Downsizing can be an effective tool to get back on the right track (if done correctly, of course).
Re:Google Plots Course to Overtake Cloud Rivals by smt88 on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @05:28PM (#22418193)
Right. Has Google ever produced a profitable product outside of ads and G Suite? YouTube likely isn't profitable, but even if it were, they bought it.

This article is far too credulous and feels like it was planted by a Google marketing person worried about customers being scared off by the downsizing news and by Google's culture of whimsical product creation/destruction in general.

Re:Google Plots Course to Overtake Cloud Rivals by tgtweak on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @05:49PM (#22418374)
Youtube is a growth play - even at that - it's not a slouch, 5bn+ in the last quarter.
Re:Google Plots Course to Overtake Cloud Rivals by smt88 on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @08:47PM (#22419541)
That’s revenue. They don’t disclose profit because it isn’t profitable. No amount of revenue is good or impressive if you can’t figure out how to spend less than you make.
Re:Google Plots Course to Overtake Cloud Rivals by jes5199 on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @05:28PM (#22418194)
adding more engineers makes development go more slowly -- does that work in reverse??
Re:Google Plots Course to Overtake Cloud Rivals by reaperducer on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @06:07PM (#22418523)
adding more engineers makes development go more slowly -- does that work in reverse??

Sure. That's why we see so many blog links on HN with titles like "I scaled my startup from $0 to $883 million with no employees in six days and only spent 49¢."

Re:Google Plots Course to Overtake Cloud Rivals by jes5199 on Wednesday February 26, 2020 @11:20AM (#22424352)
you have missed the point of my question
Re:Google Plots Course to Overtake Cloud Rivals by outworlder on Tuesday February 25, 2020 @10:20PM (#22419985)
Not all reorgs are downsizes.