Be more specific. If you want to convince anyone here then please cite high quality studies which actually meet evidence-based medicine criteria. All of the studies so far which claim to show meat is unhealthy were badly flawed observational studies which relied on subject reported data, lacked proper controls, and only showed very small effects.
https://guides.library.stonybrook.edu/evidence-based-medicin...
There are many people who follow carnivore diets who seem quite healthy. It's ridiculous to assume that we know the right answer when so much research remains to be done.
As for sausage versus vegetables, you'll have to be more specific. Those are two very broad categories of food and the exact effects will vary tremendously depending on specific ingredients, cooking, the eater's genetics and microbiome, etc.
(If you're unaware, the Inuit diet is very heavily meat-based; there just simply isn't a lot of opportunities for plants in the High Arctic. They're getting sufficient vitamin C from meat, which is actually moderately difficult!)
And it would be naive to think that eliminating added sugar and meat would prevent people from eating too much.
Which actually beats dying of starvation, which is what people used to do ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ — comparing food with cigarettes or viruses is completely ridiculous.
You mean blaming sugar or meat when historically people started eating too much, in the 20th century, due to food availability?
And less hunger too. I remember yawning repeatedly / feeling faint when I was younger but didn't know what I hungry until my mum pointed it out.
So you can't point to one or two food groups and claim their current abundance cause obesity.
Well, except white sugar lol.
You won't find any.
> And it would be naive to think that eliminating added sugar and meat would prevent people from eating too much.
I guess that people could still gorge themselves on potato chips, popcorn... Maybe a few other foods? But surely it's clear that 90%+ of overeating occurs with meat and sugar?
FYI 100 grams of walnuts has 654 kcal, roughly equivalent to 350 grams of French fries, or... 400 grams of chicken breast, which also happens to have 124 grams of protein, which no natural vegan source can match. Or 650 grams of cod w/ 148 grams of protein.
Show me the people that got fat from eating boiled chicken breast or cod. Show me the studies that show any kind of association between lean meat and disease for that matter.
Also 500 grams of watermelon, which we can easily eat at a single meal has 150 kcal and about 6 teaspoons of sugar (fructose and sucrose).
Show me the people that got fat or sick from eating too much watermelon.
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100% of the people that got fat or sick also breathe air and walk around. Maybe they should stop breathing, no?
That's not a correlation unless you can show the variables are dependent.
Show me the studies showing dependence. I'll wait.
The point I'm trying to make is that it is a challenge to overeat on a diet that doesn't contain meat or (added) sugar.
And since overeating is a major cause of obesity, diabetes and heart disease, it's fair to say that meat and sugar are responsible. Without meat and (added) sugar, we would not have the current level of obesity in the west.
I'm specifically not claiming that meat or sugar is unsafe in any quantity.
Even to the extent that most of us don’t smoke or have lots of unprotected one night stands with strangers, there’s enough who do that they and their illnesses are still a major part of our health systems.