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Re:World Economy Shudders as Coronavirus Threatens Global Su... by whatshisface on Sunday February 23, 2020 @10:02PM (#22401278)
>Probably due to the healthcare systems in the Hubei region being pushed to its limits.

What happens when the Italian healthcare system gets pushed to its limits? With a conservative estimate of 15% hospitalization (which I can't vouch for, but offer for the sake of discussion), there may be no medical system in the world which is prepared for this.

Re:World Economy Shudders as Coronavirus Threatens Global Su... by darawk on Sunday February 23, 2020 @10:55PM (#22401516)
When you say "15% hospitalization" are you suggesting that 15% of the population will be hospitalized?
Re:World Economy Shudders as Coronavirus Threatens Global Su... by whatshisface on Sunday February 23, 2020 @11:19PM (#22401615)
There are some estimates that 15% of conavirus cases end up needing to go to the hospital. So, 15% of however many Italians catch it might end up needing medical services, plus the standard baseline that already need it. That's going to be pretty tough for the system to handle.
Re:World Economy Shudders as Coronavirus Threatens Global Su... by darawk on Monday February 24, 2020 @03:51AM (#22402589)
Doesn't that depend entirely on how many Italians end up catching it?
Re:World Economy Shudders as Coronavirus Threatens Global Su... by burning_hamster on Monday February 24, 2020 @06:17AM (#22403138)
It does, but in an average flu season, how many escape unscathed? Now factor in that the transmission rates may be significantly higher for this virus (R0 below 2 versus anywhere from 1.4-6.6).
Re:World Economy Shudders as Coronavirus Threatens Global Su... by ericb on Sunday February 23, 2020 @10:41PM (#22401458)
I notice a lot of downvoting without responses here. It smacks of denial and motivated reasoning. Usually on HN, when you get down-voted, you get a counter-argument. I think it speaks volumes when there's none.
Re:World Economy Shudders as Coronavirus Threatens Global Su... by darawk on Sunday February 23, 2020 @10:59PM (#22401531)
If the original commenter here is suggesting that 15% of Italy's population will be hospitalized...that is its own counter-argument. That's pretty clearly not going to happen.
Re:World Economy Shudders as Coronavirus Threatens Global Su... by ericb on Sunday February 23, 2020 @11:28PM (#22401644)
> That's pretty clearly not going to happen.

Sure, if you mean that the capacity isn't there.

And sure, if you mean it won't be 15% of the total, but rather 15% of the 70% of the population who catch it, then ok.

If you mean that that level of care isn't required for the 15% of severe cases which was seen in the studies, then you'll have to refute the studies of people who know more about this than you, with some better arguments than that.

http://weekly.chinacdc.cn/en/article/id/e53946e2-c6c4-41e9-9...

Re:World Economy Shudders as Coronavirus Threatens Global Su... by Barrin92 on Monday February 24, 2020 @12:24AM (#22401882)
>of the 70% of the population who catch it,

Sorry, but where in gods name is this number coming from? There are currently a few hundred cases documented in Italy,rate of new coronavirus cases worldwide has slowed down to about 500-1000 per day.

For reference, the US has about 1 million hospital visits for pneumonia every year. I couldn't find numbers for Italy but I assume it's in the ballpark of 200k relatively speaking. So a few hundred extra cases or even a few thousand aren't going to push the system anywhere.

Re:World Economy Shudders as Coronavirus Threatens Global Su... by bosie on Monday February 24, 2020 @07:42AM (#22403539)
Not sure about the 70% but 60%-80% was talked about a few days ago: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/11/coronavirus-ex...
Re:World Economy Shudders as Coronavirus Threatens Global Su... by dvfjsdhgfv on Monday February 24, 2020 @02:03AM (#22402201)
> Usually on HN, when you get down-voted, you get a counter-argument.

Not really.