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Re:Inrupt, Tim Berners-Lee's Solid, and Me by kmlx on Sunday February 23, 2020 @05:33AM (#22396178)
> What ad networks do is the digital equivalent of filming and spying on people who walk by your storefront. What they do, how they do it and the effects it has on society are wrong.

wait a minute. i know there are currently startups that offer this exact type of analytics. and from what i know these types of analytics are extremely beneficial to both consumers and store owners. what exactly is the problem here?

Re:Inrupt, Tim Berners-Lee's Solid, and Me by arkades on Sunday February 23, 2020 @06:57AM (#22396447)
> extremely beneficial to both consumers

What "extreme benefits" do I derive from being filmed and analyzed by stores I happen to walk past?

Re:Inrupt, Tim Berners-Lee's Solid, and Me by kmlx on Monday February 24, 2020 @03:21AM (#22402492)
you get better products. the store gets better sales. it's a win win all around.

this is already happening and it's already providing value.

Re:Inrupt, Tim Berners-Lee's Solid, and Me by atoav on Monday February 24, 2020 @10:51AM (#22405053)
How do you get better products?

What does a filmed image give you that isn't reflected by sales numbers?

The goal of tracking isn't to make and sell better products, the goal is to create an environment in which the product you already got gets sold more. So essientially people who track you want to manipulate you into buying shit you don't need at prices you wouldn't pay unless manipulated.

Tracking people who would buy your product anyways isn't all that interesting: you've already got them.

Re:Inrupt, Tim Berners-Lee's Solid, and Me by anoncake on Sunday February 23, 2020 @07:27AM (#22396525)
If analytics are beneficial to customers, why aren't they opt-in but instead businesses try hard not to let them even opt out?
Re:Inrupt, Tim Berners-Lee's Solid, and Me by matz1 on Sunday February 23, 2020 @08:29AM (#22396736)
The value for the customer comes when they not opt in.
Re:Inrupt, Tim Berners-Lee's Solid, and Me by kmlx on Monday February 24, 2020 @03:28AM (#22402520)
this question makes no sense.

since on street analytics are already beneficial to everyone, consumers and providers, why should they be opt-in? they should be, and currently are, automatic opt-in with an option to opt-out. you are walking on the street, so any privacy is gone just from walking outside of your home.

Re:Inrupt, Tim Berners-Lee's Solid, and Me by anoncake on Monday February 24, 2020 @06:04AM (#22403083)
What doesn't make sense is to consider never leaving the house a realistic option. Nor does the phrase "automatic opt-in".

And I hope this:

> since on street analytics are already beneficial to everyone, consumers and providers, why should they be opt-in?

is a joke. It's pure authoritarianism.