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Re:AMD Threadripper 3970X under heavy AVX2 load: Defective b... by paulmd on Friday February 21, 2020 @02:21PM (#22385911)
Designing chips that can be safely run at redline 24/7 will inevitably involve a significant reduction in voltage (and thus clocks) for the 99.99999% of users who aren't running them at redline 24/7.

Would you buy a GPU that you could safely run Furmark on 24/7 if it was limited to, half or 3/4 of the clocks? That's basically what you're proposing. I seriously doubt that you would actually lay money down for that shit. The market as a whole certainly wouldn't, they would buy the card that's faster under actual real-world workloads and/or didn't require manual overclocking to achieve its potential in real-world workloads.

The good news is that you can have it both ways. Modern power management is smart enough to figure out when you're running a power virus and it will downclock to those safe levels, while us normies can get competitive clocks when running our real-world code. It works pretty well most of the time.

Re:AMD Threadripper 3970X under heavy AVX2 load: Defective b... by theevilsharpie on Friday February 21, 2020 @08:09PM (#22388680)
> Would you buy a GPU that you could safely run Furmark on 24/7 if it was limited to, half or 3/4 of the clocks?

Given that modern GPUs have complex frequency scaling algorithms that take temperature and power usage into account when setting clock speed, there's a good chance that a modern GPU will do exactly that.

> Modern power management is smart enough to figure out when you're running a power virus and it will downclock to those safe levels, while us normies can get competitive clocks when running our real-world code.

Which is perfectly fine, as long as the clock speed behavior is disclosed (which it is).

What isn't fine is a product running at such a high speed from the factory that running certain workloads damages it.

Re:AMD Threadripper 3970X under heavy AVX2 load: Defective b... by Filligree on Saturday February 22, 2020 @09:01AM (#22391048)
If you look back at the OP, he specified "while overclocking".

I believe that's where the issue lays. Overclocking usually also means increasing the voltage.