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Re:Facebook asks for a moat of regulations it already meets by joering2 on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @09:05AM (#22356114)
If you think that takes balls, then you have no idea how big are European Union balls. Just google “cigarette packages in europe” and get ready to get seriously shocked.
Re:Facebook asks for a moat of regulations it already meets by capableweb on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @09:16AM (#22356180)
As a European, I think Australia went even further and just removed all the branding from packages completely. In Europe, brands still get to have some design.
Re:Facebook asks for a moat of regulations it already meets by gambiting on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @09:26AM (#22356257)
"Europe" is not a single place with one set of regulations - in the UK for instance there is no branding on packages at all. It's called "standardised plain packaging":

https://ash.org.uk/category/information-and-resources/packag...

Re:Facebook asks for a moat of regulations it already meets by ggcdn on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @09:38AM (#22356351)
Canadian packages too. They required a rather graphic health warning over 50% of the surface area (showing a smokers lungs with explanation, etc) and also removed branding. So it’s a giant health warning over the top half, and then a plain brown lower half with the name/type
Re:Facebook asks for a moat of regulations it already meets by justaguyhere on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @09:54AM (#22356450)
Curious - do these packages work? Have they reduced smoking addiction?
Re:Facebook asks for a moat of regulations it already meets by ggcdn on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @10:58AM (#22356927)
(I don't smoke btw, but my father-in-law smokes like a chimney)

Its hard to relate cause and effects, but I see a noticeable decline in smoking among younger people, and smoking has become very uncool. People will also make a big deal about second hand smoke, for instance if you're near a bus stop or busy sidewalk you may get called out.

I don't know if anything besides medical intervention can stop a seasoned veteran smoker, though. Packaging certainly hasn't had any effect on my few family members that smoke.

Re:Facebook asks for a moat of regulations it already meets by ApolloFortyNine on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @02:18PM (#22359303)
In the U.S smoking has dramatically decreased, and we don't have totally insane packaging like Canada/some of the EU. [1]

[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/08/cdc-says-smoking-rates-fall-...

Smoking has just generally fallen by the way side worldwide.

Re:Facebook asks for a moat of regulations it already meets by dwild on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @10:26AM (#22356687)
I don't know if it apply to the whole country or only my province (Quebec) but since then we also added that they can't be marketed at all. That include not being visible in a convenience store. I don't know how effective the pictures were, but not being visible that must have affected the statistics too.
Re:Facebook asks for a moat of regulations it already meets by mantap on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @10:04AM (#22356517)
Maybe. What helps more is 1) indoor smoking bans, stopping people from smoking socially inside bars and restaurants, 2) heavy taxation, 3) vaping.
Re:Facebook asks for a moat of regulations it already meets by plop_ on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @09:20AM (#22356213)
Seems like some EU countries are now requiring a plain packaging too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_tobacco_packaging#By_cou...