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Re:Tesla teardown finds electronics 6 years ahead of Toyota ... by falcolas on Monday February 17, 2020 @10:15PM (#22353146)
Is it? Getting the spacing down so its not noticeable by humans is doing manufacturing and assembly with tolerances measured in whole millimeters. It’s easily the largest possible tolerances allowed within the manufacture and assembly of the car. It should be some of the easiest manufacturing and assembly to be done.

If they can’t manage tolerances measured in millimeters, how can they manage manufacturing and assembly tolerances measured in the thousandths of a millimeter?

Re:Tesla teardown finds electronics 6 years ahead of Toyota ... by nwallin on Monday February 17, 2020 @11:10PM (#22353375)
> Is it?

Yes.

Internal combustion engines require intense tolerances. If your cylinder head is 1mm out of spec you're going to have serious problems.

But if the wire winding bundle for the electric motor is 5mm out of spec? You'll be fine.

The areas in a Tesla where tolerances are actually important- the batteries and PCBs- are subject to completely different engineering practices. Nobody's going to get cross trained from fitting door panels to placing SMCs... which is done by a robot anyway.

Do you (literally) kick the tires of a car before you buy it?

Re:Tesla teardown finds electronics 6 years ahead of Toyota ... by rootusrootus on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @12:01AM (#22353590)
Engines aren't built on the body assembly line, they are also subject to completely different engineering practices, and have their own set of workers. And robots, too!
Re:Tesla teardown finds electronics 6 years ahead of Toyota ... by KaiserPro on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @09:01AM (#22356083)
If they wiring bundle is 5mm out, you're going to have a bad day, shits going to burn.

If the doors are misaligned it either means the chassis is deformed, or at best the hinges are misaligned.

That doesn't bode well to what happens in a crash, or if it rains. Are the seals oversized to account for slop? what happens when they get old?

If I'm dropping $100k on a new car, I want to make bloody sure its built well. That doesn't mean that people won't buy them, far from it.

Look, I get it, Tesla is new and shiny. But lets not over-rate them. They have parts that are very well built. but the software, chassis and interior are not part of that.

Re:Tesla teardown finds electronics 6 years ahead of Toyota ... by jayd16 on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @02:59AM (#22354279)
This is like saying they must not have computer chips in the car because of door tolerances and yet clearly they do. Maybe they just don't care about exterior fit and finish?