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Re:An investigation of the Pentagon's UFO program by gfodor on Monday February 17, 2020 @08:14PM (#22352567)
You assume that if these are not ours, then broadcasting them shows a weakness. That seems like a big assumption. There are a variety of scenarios where the military may not see these as a threat, yet didn’t create them.
Re:An investigation of the Pentagon's UFO program by 34679 on Monday February 17, 2020 @11:39PM (#22353496)
According to the Navy pilot who went on the Rogan podcast, the object he encountered was actively jamming his radar and targeting systems, which he also said is considered an act of war. I'm not sure how any military could consider a craft that can fly circles around ours while jamming our targeting systems to be benign. Unless it's ours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnIG-i2WCfg

https://podscribe.app/feeds/http-joeroganexpjoeroganlibsynpr...

"the way the system actually works is when you see something on the radar and you designate it as your primary target all the other sensors will look at that point so it's everything is kind of sink together so he picks up a hit on his radar and he goes to lock it up because I watched all the tapes he goes to lock it up and immediately the radar can tell it gets signals back that it's being jammed

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so in technically jamming is an act of War it starts jamming the radar goes into a jam extrapolate a bunch of stuff happens on the scope"

Re:An investigation of the Pentagon's UFO program by gfodor on Tuesday February 18, 2020 @06:53PM (#22361693)
some of the scenarios I'm referring to:

- there's some communicative intelligence involved with the craft(s), that we've communicated with in a way that leads us to think they are harmless (despite radar jamming antics.) in a best case scenario, we've been given guarantees of safety as well as sufficient explanation and demonstration to consider that guarantee credible.

- we've seen sufficient examples of these in history to conclude that if harm was meant, it would have been dealt by now

- the crafts themselves have given indications of any game theoretic elements which would lead to harm. for example, perhaps they've communicated (perhaps indirectly through escalation and deescalation) what areas of engagement or human action will lead to escalation and which won't, and have done so consistently

i'm leaning towards a combination of the second and the third. there's no reason to believe these craft are new phenomena, but likely evaded sufficient detection to be accepted as real until the last several decades. if you assume the technology involved in these are far beyond our own, then it's also fair to assume that any capacity for harm from these has been ever-present and existential in scope since humanity first began. and yet, here we are. so it doesn't take a huge leap of logic to conclude that perhaps these are harmless, modulo any major disruptions in say the threat of humanity to itself or to other parts of the galaxy.