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Re:Sweden gives employees unpaid time off to be entrepreneur... by blub on Monday February 17, 2020 @02:55AM (#22346212)
Happy to hear that this at-will employment thing is working great for US tech workers. How is it working for the majority of the US population?
Re:Sweden gives employees unpaid time off to be entrepreneur... by burntoutfire on Monday February 17, 2020 @03:00AM (#22346226)
People in US generally enjoy higher standard of living than people in Western Europe (minus healthcare, but that's unrelated), which is a signal that the system as a whole is generally benefitial for workers. Employers hire much more eagerly knowing that, if the tides turn, the extra employees will not be a burden. To see this in practice, check out for example unemployment trends in US vs France.
Re:Sweden gives employees unpaid time off to be entrepreneur... by pimmen on Monday February 17, 2020 @07:57AM (#22347329)
Health care, dental care up to adulthood, parental leave protected by law and education through college is definitely not unrelated to standard of living. Neither is mandatory pension contributions from your employer, as well as a guaranteed contribution from the state (we unknowingly get contributions to our retirement for every month we go to college).

Sure, if you're single with no kids, in very good shape, employed as a data engineer and 30 years old , like me, you would gladly take the money instead of all the other stuff. But I like the fact that children who are born into working poor families in Sweden will have a much healthier upbringing than if they were born in the US.

Re:Sweden gives employees unpaid time off to be entrepreneur... by satanspastaroll on Monday February 17, 2020 @03:49AM (#22346395)
> (minus healthcare, but that's unrelated

I think healthcare is very related to the standard of living

Re:Sweden gives employees unpaid time off to be entrepreneur... by burntoutfire on Monday February 17, 2020 @01:14PM (#22349389)
I meant unrelated to the topic at hand, i.e. job market and job regulations.
Re:Sweden gives employees unpaid time off to be entrepreneur... by matt74827289 on Monday February 17, 2020 @01:42PM (#22349560)
Given that healthcare is often provided by employer's in the USA, I think healthcare is very related to the topics of the jobs markets and job regulations.
Re:Sweden gives employees unpaid time off to be entrepreneur... by cjrp on Monday February 17, 2020 @07:08AM (#22347119)
I can't tell if this is satire.

> Employers hire much more eagerly knowing that, if the tides turn, the extra employees will not be a burden

This doesn't sound great for employees (i.e. the majority of the country).

Re:Sweden gives employees unpaid time off to be entrepreneur... by burntoutfire on Monday February 17, 2020 @01:16PM (#22349404)
The "hire much more eagerly part" is actually great. Sure, your job can be reduced at any time, but the alternative is to not have the job at all - the business will likely not risk job creation on an uncertain project knowing they will not be able to fire if the project goes south.

In practice, just see unemployment numbers - around 3% in US and around 9% in France, with chronic low-intensity rebellion (yellow vests) happening in the country.

Re:Sweden gives employees unpaid time off to be entrepreneur... by cjrp on Wednesday February 19, 2020 @09:39AM (#22365764)
Employment figures don't tell the whole story. For example, lots of people could be employed but still not earning a living wage.
Re:Sweden gives employees unpaid time off to be entrepreneur... by bakuninsbart on Monday February 17, 2020 @10:02AM (#22348114)
This is not backed up by statistics. Look at life satisfaction or mood-polls. GDP/capita or stuff like that does not tell you how people are actually doing. Even in rich cities like NYC or SF, I did not feel like people had a higher standard of living - unless they were part of the 1%
Re:Sweden gives employees unpaid time off to be entrepreneur... by krageon on Monday February 17, 2020 @08:48AM (#22347646)
> generally enjoy higher standard of living

This is the country that saw the invention of the "food desert", that has an absolutely terrifyingly high incidence of opiate addiction and that routinely shuffles entire cities worth of homeless around the country so they're someone else's problem? That US?

Re:Sweden gives employees unpaid time off to be entrepreneur... by burntoutfire on Monday February 17, 2020 @01:13PM (#22349385)
It's also the country where not being able to live in a detached house is mostly seen as not worthy of middle class. That's far above the standard of Western Europe, where people in middle class lives in flats.
Re:Sweden gives employees unpaid time off to be entrepreneur... by pimmen on Thursday February 20, 2020 @03:10AM (#22373526)
In Sweden, most middle class people live in detached houses. However, most young professionals desire to live in apartments because it's simply more convenient. I hate the garden and I hate driving.

This article is about Sweden, remember. My parents have two houses, one outside Gothenburg (big enough that they have converted the floor me and my younger brother lived in into two apartments, one if four bedrooms the other one is two) and a beach house further up north. They're from a completely different generation with different priorities.