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Re:South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux by pcr910303 on Sunday February 16, 2020 @02:15PM (#22343235)
> Microsoft will just offer Windows for free

Which... doesn’t have a really incentive now in because all of the legacy components that required Windows in the first place are all broken on Win10...

> Office at a steep discount

... and we don’t really rely on Microsoft Office that much (compared to other countries). The dominant word processor is from a local company (side note: Word is just awful... seriously. Maybe it’s due to no competition., and the local company has viable solutions that provide very high compatibility (seriously, l just can’t believe how they did it, it’s super compatible) with Word, Excel & Powerpoint. (AFAIK they export them to other countries governments as well.)

Re:South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux by meeebooo on Sunday February 16, 2020 @07:33PM (#22344668)
But how will Martha in Accounting (or whatever the Korean equivalent of Martha in Accounting is) learn how to deal with the UX terribleness that is most of Linux? Windows she's been using all of her life, it might not be much better but she's used to it.
Re:South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux by pcr910303 on Sunday February 16, 2020 @08:05PM (#22344782)
> But how will <someone> learn how to deal with the UX terribleness that is most of Linux?

They learnt to deal with the terrible UX in Windows, no reason they can’t on Linux. :-)

> it might not be much better but she's used to it.

It’s her work, she better get used to it too keep working; That’s a pretty compelling reason to get used to Linux, right?

Re:South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Monday February 17, 2020 @11:16AM (#22348683)
> They learnt to deal with the terrible UX in Windows, no reason they can’t on Linux. :-)

Linux's terrible UIs change pretty much every month as Linux GUI devs get bored and decide to reinvent everything for no reason. Microsoft has only recently started doing that and it's still at a much slower pace.

Re:South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux by hutzlibu on Monday February 17, 2020 @01:02PM (#22349324)
If you pick some random community version, then yes.

But you know, there are versions with commercial support out there. And governments could have the budget to actually maintain their own version. (they do btw.)

Re:South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux by mr_toad on Sunday February 16, 2020 @09:30PM (#22345120)
> They learnt to deal with the terrible UX in Windows, no reason they can’t on Linux. :-)

They could, but they won’t.

They want Outlook and Word and Excel, and they’ll exhibit a mule-like stubbornness to budge.

Re:South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux by pcr910303 on Sunday February 16, 2020 @09:50PM (#22345214)
> They want Outlook and Word and Excel

I’ve mentioned that we don’t use Word, (BTW, seriously, is there anyone who uses Outlook anymore?) and the dominant word processor used in South Korea had a port to Linux that is fully featured and has a very high compatibility since 2008.

Re:South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux by eropple on Sunday February 16, 2020 @11:55PM (#22345694)
> (BTW, seriously, is there anyone who uses Outlook anymore?)

Outlook is still huge amongst professions that have to deal with people a lot. The calendaring is better than online solutions (by a lot) and the plugins, I am told, for stuff like Salesforce are awesome.

Re:South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux by GoblinSlayer on Monday February 17, 2020 @07:42AM (#22347259)
>They want Outlook and Word and Excel

They are redesigned every version though, there's nothing fixed to want from them.

Re:South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux by GoblinSlayer on Monday February 17, 2020 @07:32AM (#22347222)
>UX terribleness

Linux has an upper hand in terms of UX since Windows Vista, and the gap widened greatly since then, go read what people think about metro.

Re:South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux by what-the-grump on Sunday February 16, 2020 @02:49PM (#22343395)
No idea where you are getting any of this from...

A little hard to complain when we can take dlls that are 10-12 years old shove them into something like server 2019/SQL 2019, and not think about compatibility.

Same goes for client apps, was your app shit 10 years ago? It's not going to change 10 years later. Did it work in word 10 years ago, it will most likely work 10 years later with zero changes.

Re:South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux by hutzlibu on Sunday February 16, 2020 @04:03PM (#22343739)
ActiveX.

See other comments here

Re:South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux by oblio on Sunday February 16, 2020 @06:14PM (#22344318)
Are you telling me no one in South Korea uses Photoshop, InDesign, professional video editing software or generally any kind of pro software that doesn't run on Linux?
Re:South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux by pcr910303 on Sunday February 16, 2020 @07:24PM (#22344633)
> no one in South Korea uses Photoshop, InDesign, professional video editing software or generally any kind of pro software that doesn't run on Linux

Of course not! :-) I don’t run Linux myself for these reasons... but the government agency PCs has no requirement to run these. The officials shouldn’t run useless programs on work, right? :-)

Re:South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux by oblio on Monday February 17, 2020 @04:02AM (#22346439)
You mean that no one in the South Korean government does any kind of professional photo editing (or any other kind of high level professional desktop work)? It could make sense if they outsource all of that. But I doubt that out of millions of people, 100% are just low level clerks typing in forms receive from the public.
Re:South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux by pcr910303 on Monday February 17, 2020 @04:32AM (#22346519)
There must be people doing that, but it's not the majority. Which means that the majority of the people can just go along with Linux without Photoshop. If there are people who need them, they can use a Windows PC.

Also, as a side point, AFAIK all of the operating systems that are mentioned in the article has native support for executing Windows applications using Wine - as there are still programs that only support Windows. Unlike other Linux distributions where Wine is a second level citizen, the distributions have preinstalled Wine wrappers for the dominant IM in South Korea so if the government wants it, wrapping up a version of Photoshop that works on Wine won't be that hard.

Re:South Korea switching their 3.3M PCs to Linux by modo_mario on Monday February 17, 2020 @05:41AM (#22346726)
Those people that require adobe shit are probably very rare and can still just use windows, mac a VM, Wine or an alternative like krita, inkscape or what have you. And there's probably more work like that for local governments and smaller agencies but then those either already make do with some "marta from accounting made a poster in word" type of design or outsource it since it doesn't make sense to keep someone around permanently.