They just have a lot more investor money they need to show returns on this time.
Further, I don't know how big the original team was, but I doubt the majority of the founders are still there. It is, largely, approximately, under different management.
The oldest and most stable online communities seem to have the slowest-changing interfaces.
I think it will be an interesting case. Reddit seems more entrenched than Digg and the internet is different now. They obviously have metrics affirming their choices, so we’re probably in the minority with this mindset.
All kinds of shitty companies regularly force us to accept bullshit like this and Im afraid this is now status quo. It seems younger people generally accept it because the need for content is stronger than that of due diligence, a naive mistake en masse.
Yeah, one thing is that Reddit the company is getting shady, but the community has gotten rather toxic the last few years. I closed my account two years ago, roughly, because the community started be rather exclusive. If you're not an overly political correct leftish American city dweller you're opinions aren't welcome. There are Reddit approved opinions, any deviation from these opinions will result in you having a bad time.
I'm honestly surprised that the NSFW subreddit haven't been killed off yet, but I suppose Reddit see a business opportunity in all the cam-girls hanging around.
Think about Facebook, Twitter, Quora and now Reddit.
I am not saying the company is doing anything _bad_ per se. A company has to be profitable, otherwise it would die. So, it seems to me that for a SNS to stay "good", it cannot be backed by a for profit company.
I don't know how that would work. Maybe things like WT.Social and Mastodon are the answer.
Facebook is designed for, and in fact is designed to prey on, the computer illiterate.
Particularly ads. I don't think it's necessarily computer illiteracy specifically to blame here, though it's certainly a factor. The elderly are also targeted by telephone scammers, presumably because they tend to be more trusting/naive. Even snail-mail becomes an issue for some old folks; my grandmother has trouble differentiating junk mail from legitimate mail, it can sometimes take her several minutes to realize she can throw away a junkmail flier.
I have the deepest contempt for the people who work in these sort of industries. They must know what they're doing.
Scam isn’t even the right word. More like “scheme”. Everything from anti-aging pills to travel clubs to worse. Between this garbage and the fake news nonsense Facebook is an absolute disease at this point.
Honestly, someone should start a campaign to ask Mark Zuckerberg to just delete it. Cash out and delete it for the good of humanity.
Your best bet about shutting down Facebook is government action or useds leaving Facebook. Either of those seems almost impossible however, and keep in mind Facebook has money to purchase its competitors if useds start moving to them.
The market will do the rest. Facebook doesn’t want to be fined so will force all ads to be reviewed & approved manually. This costs money so in turn the price of the ads will go up. Legitimate brands will still be able to afford it, the rest will disappear. Overall there would be less “noise” in the ads compared to the “signal” (the very few good ads).
Where are you going to go? Voat?
They can be as horrible to their users as they want. As long as they have cat pictures on the front page, nobody cares enough to change anything.
I think we're all getting exactly what is deserved by collectively allowing a monopoly to form. (I'm not suggesting there should be legal action. I'm saying, by the laws of exponential curves and popularity, monopolies naturally form, and this is the result.)
Myspace was the flavor of the month. Now it is facebook/imgur/snapchat. But before it was friendster, AIM, MSN, ICQ etc. Maybe next it will be Discord or Son Of Discord.
The wheel continues to turn. I have zero faith Reddit will command the market share it does today, in 2030.
Slashdot really only competes with a dozen or so subreddits, after all, not with reddit as a whole.
But I guess that replies aren't implemented :(
> Snew is an open-source parody client for reddit.
> It is a client forked from the reddit source code that runs entirely in your browser.
> Snew attempts to undo reddit's pervasive censorship
> Content is pulled directly from the reddit api and pushshift.io
0) https://snew.notabug.io/r/all/
1) https://snew.notabug.io/r/mobileweb/comments/f2afvz/this_com...
Interesting. Seems active too.
There's also tildes: https://tildes.net/ (I tried googling them and they're nowhere to be found. Ironically /r/tildes popped up before the actual site did.)
And lobsters: https://lobste.rs/
notabug.io is a decentralized Reddit alternative that uses open source html/css from Reddit but whole new backend.
Snew.notabug.io is an anti censorship Reddit client that also uses open source html/css from Reddit but uses Reddit’s APIs and pushshift.io"
- go1dfish (admin of both)
https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/qs5/saidit_is_now_the_s...
It just gives you ~everything that got posted to Reddit.
Which is very useful for research purposes. And it fixes another Reddit defect, wherein it won't display full comment history, unless you're logged in.
Not every network has to be a bastion of free speech, but being closed minded and erasing entire discussions that they don't like is a great way to build an echo chamber.
I wish a remember more of the context, but I had bookmarked this page[0] because it was an interesting discussion on this matter. As you can see, it's been nuked.
0: https://tildes.net/~tildes/ct2/no_invite_links_available_hav...
I like the HN approach, generally. Even people who have gotten themselves shadowbanned can still post, and interesting comments can be vouched. And there's redemption with consistent evidence of constructive posting.
Ideally, though, I like distributed systems, where content is persistent and irrevocable. But with multiple portals, each with its own standards, and portal-specific moderation. And additionally, giving users the tools to filter, based on posters, topics, keywords, time, etc.
Anyway, about the URL, archive.org has no snapshots, and just tells me that it's available. But perhaps someone has archived it, and will post a link.
Reddit is the Nth most popular site in the world. (I'm not exactly sure what N is, but it's pretty small.) Whatever the competition is, it hardly registers on the radar.
If they wouldn't use these practices I would probably spend a significant amount of time on their site. But as it is now, I feel reluctant to visit reddit unless I am searching for a solution to a specific problem.
I am not even sure if users like me who stay away even show up in any of the metrics they use to justify their current actions — how would they even messure it?
I think Facebook is experiencing a similar thing. A frustrating amount of my network has quit, which makes planning events more difficult (and is frustrating). The difference for Facebook is that they have enough money to just buy wherever people move to. Reddit doesn’t have that.
At this point I think a lot of people are actively looking for (and probably finding) replacements. I’m actually surprised Reddit still makes their public api so easily available without any keys. I wonder how long until somebody just scrapes the content and uses that to help get over the network problem and start a competitor.