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Re:Did the early internet activists blow it? by whiddershins on Saturday February 15, 2020 @08:07PM (#22339178)
Expressing opinions vs making specific threats is a very clear thick line for me, and yet somehow whenever I read about takedowns and such it seems many people have trouble making the distinction.

“I hate x and wish they had never been born”

Is not

“I am coming to your house tomorrow with a weapon”

Yet people treat them similarly.

From there it just becomes “anything that scares me is a threat.”

Then, it becomes obvious that people are in general scared of cultures and attitudes very different from their own.

And so there’s no tolerant chaos anymore.

It’s a Motte and Bailey argument.

Very few people support doxxing and/or incitements to violence.

But it is amazing how much censorship happens in the pursuit of curbing such threats.

Re:Did the early internet activists blow it? by CoolGuySteve on Saturday February 15, 2020 @08:29PM (#22339255)
In some psychology class long ago, I learned that one of the most self destructive things someone can do is perceive emotions as information. As in "That made me mad so what they did was clearly wrong". A lot of therapy is geared to shifting people away from that cognitive error.

But that concept is thrown out the window when it comes to Twitter/Facebook/etc.

I can't count how many times I've read "I'm literally shaking now" used as an indictment against someone else's perceived transgression. I think out of all the twitter cliches, that one makes me roll my eyes the most.

Re:Did the early internet activists blow it? by dboreham on Saturday February 15, 2020 @09:33PM (#22339473)
Unfortunately this is kind of how the human brain works. It presumably evolved from a simpler design that only had "emotions", adding a higher level processing function that began as something very simple, evolving over a long time into the complex neocortex we have now. The primitive emotional brain is still present, with an imperfect "interface" to the newer brain.
Re:Did the early internet activists blow it? by Mirioron on Saturday February 15, 2020 @08:17PM (#22339214)
I would like to echo your statement. I've always found it bizarre how people conflate insults with threats. In the vast majority of cases we can draw a very distinct line between the two. On top of that, it's not like this has any less ambiguity in meatspace.