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Re:ActivityPub, the secret weapon of the Fediverse by lowdose on Saturday February 15, 2020 @03:59AM (#22334128)
Why isn't Twitter using and backing ActivityPub?

It sounds pretty much what Facebook has done with login with Facebook for developers. Except that the network effects aren't controlled by 1 commercial company but is an open source effort.

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Re:ActivityPub, the secret weapon of the Fediverse by manigandham on Saturday February 15, 2020 @04:05AM (#22334145)
What does Twitter stand to gain from it? They’re also notorious for disabling 3rd party integrations and seem to prefer a strong walled garden.
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Re:ActivityPub, the secret weapon of the Fediverse by lowdose on Saturday February 15, 2020 @04:50AM (#22334302)
Exactly for their notorious reputation. A lot of developers are going to change their mind about Twitter. To survive Twitter needs to innovate and become more open.
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Re:ActivityPub, the secret weapon of the Fediverse by jsilence on Saturday February 15, 2020 @05:22AM (#22334408)
The fact that Twitter has never made any profit and lacks a viable business model and yet is backed by "rich dudes" makes me assume that it is this vitriol inducing hate speech factory on purpose. There is no sane discourse possible on this platform and that is for a reason and not by accident.

Thus I would rather see Twitter die or fade away than see it succeed.

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Re:ActivityPub, the secret weapon of the Fediverse by skinnymuch on Saturday February 15, 2020 @06:14PM (#22338707)
Twitter has made up all their losses from 2010-2017 in just 2018 and 2019. They’re on pace to possibly hit $2B in profit in 2021. They are a pretty healthy, profitable company right now. Their PE ratio isn’t high for a tech company.
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Re:ActivityPub, the secret weapon of the Fediverse by majewsky on Saturday February 15, 2020 @01:46PM (#22337055)
> Twitter has never made any profit

Twitter's operating income in 2019 was +453 million $, with net income at +1.47 billion $.

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Re:ActivityPub, the secret weapon of the Fediverse by jsilence on Sunday February 16, 2020 @07:14AM (#22341201)
I stand corrected.

What is the business model?

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Re:ActivityPub, the secret weapon of the Fediverse by majewsky on Monday February 17, 2020 @06:22AM (#22346902)
Same as everyone else. Targeted ads.
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Re:ActivityPub, the secret weapon of the Fediverse by zelly on Saturday February 15, 2020 @04:30AM (#22334231)
Jack said he hired a team to build a NIH version of decentralized social networking.
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Re:ActivityPub, the secret weapon of the Fediverse by dgellow on Saturday February 15, 2020 @05:03AM (#22334340)
That’s misleading. They talked about considering the problem and creating a team to investigate solutions.They were clear about the fact that they would consider existing projects if they match their requirements.
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Re:ActivityPub, the secret weapon of the Fediverse by lokedhs on Saturday February 15, 2020 @05:33AM (#22334451)
And that's all we've heard about it. I think ActvityPub definitely does not match their requirements, and also, I doubt any federation system does.

I'm saying this because their primary requirement is clearly to have strict control over their own^H^H^Huser's content.

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Re:ActivityPub, the secret weapon of the Fediverse by shp0ngle on Saturday February 15, 2020 @05:27AM (#22334425)
With blockchain!
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Re:ActivityPub, the secret weapon of the Fediverse by app4soft on Saturday February 15, 2020 @05:43AM (#22334488)
Blockchain. 2020.[0]

[0] https://xkcd.com/2267/

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Re:ActivityPub, the secret weapon of the Fediverse by robobro on Saturday February 15, 2020 @04:08AM (#22334156)
How do you think Twitter makes money?
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Re:ActivityPub, the secret weapon of the Fediverse by lowdose on Saturday February 15, 2020 @04:51AM (#22334306)
Advertisement like Facebook, but I'm arguing Twitters network effects are not as strong as Facebook.
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Re:ActivityPub, the secret weapon of the Fediverse by DarthGhandi on Saturday February 15, 2020 @06:34AM (#22334657)
They have paid API tiers also I believe? It's been a while since using it.
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Re:ActivityPub, the secret weapon of the Fediverse by notatoad on Saturday February 15, 2020 @02:27PM (#22337339)
In FY2019, they had ~3bn advertising revenue and ~465mm in "data licencing and other".

https://s22.q4cdn.com/826641620/files/doc_financials/2019/q4...

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Re:ActivityPub, the secret weapon of the Fediverse by shd4 on Saturday February 15, 2020 @05:31AM (#22334440)
That's where Mastodon comes in.
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