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Re:Facebook reverses on paid influencers after Bloomberg memes by m0zg on Friday February 14, 2020 @04:17PM (#22330485)
>> How are we supposed to trust the media

You aren't supposed to trust it. You are supposed to learn to read between the lines like we read Pravda in the Soviet Union.

Most of the "free" press in this country is owned by 5 billionaires. Most of it is also losing money hand over fist, so they have other motivations for keeping it around. It's just that this time these motivations are becoming obvious even to the democrats - the beneficiaries of the media bias. The reason for this are independent channels the "free" press can't control. If there was no FB or Twitter, you wouldn't even know Yang existed. Now imagine what Republicans, and Trump supporters especially think of this propaganda machine and how little trust they have in it.

The press in this country (or in any other country, really) exists for one reason only: to manufacture consent for whatever the ruling class wants to shove down your throat next. FB and Twitter get in the way of that in a pretty fatal way, if they aren't controlled by the same cabal.

Re:Facebook reverses on paid influencers after Bloomberg memes by fzeroracer on Friday February 14, 2020 @04:28PM (#22330572)
>Now imagine what Republicans, and Trump supporters especially think of this propaganda machine and how little trust they have in it

I'm really not sure this statement holds. They don't trust certain parts of the media propaganda machine, but they place unwavering faith in other propaganda outlets which are arguably far worse in pushing conspiracy. FB and Twitter are both far from free channels and the fact that people think they're somehow better than another propaganda machine just means you agree with that bias, not that they're somehow more trustworthy.

A healthy dose of skepticism is always a good thing, but when you go too far you fall prey to things that slip between the cracks of skepticism to feed fears.

Re:Facebook reverses on paid influencers after Bloomberg memes by m0zg on Friday February 14, 2020 @04:46PM (#22330725)
I don't think they place much trust in any of it. Which is the way media should be consumed. The blatant bias and lack of integrity of media was pretty stark in the runup to the 2016 election, and has only become worse after it.

Litmus test for you: do you believe that "both sides" comment by Trump was referring to neo-nazis? If you do, you've been lied to, and you need to read the full transcript. If you read it, you will see that he was referring to people for and against taking down the statues, and condemned the nazis immediately thereafter.

To this day the articles have not been retracted, and are routinely used by the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden to attack the president. They know full well it's a lie, but keep using it anyway.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1110531572275396609.html

And this is just one example. You wouldn't believe how quickly Yang would become a depraved maniac and literally Hitler if he had any chance of winning the nomination, instead of the "preferred" candidate. Don't believe me? Watch some interviews with Trump before he ran - they're still on YouTube. Beloved public persona, national icon, can do no wrong.

Re:Facebook reverses on paid influencers after Bloomberg memes by fzeroracer on Friday February 14, 2020 @04:55PM (#22330784)
I mean for someone who says they don't place any trust in the media, why are you placing your faith in Trump? He runs one of the biggest media empires in the world.

I've read the transcript and watched it live. it was obvious what he said. I'll leave the argument at that.

Re:Facebook reverses on paid influencers after Bloomberg memes by m0zg on Friday February 14, 2020 @07:43PM (#22332010)
But you don't get to "leave the argument at that", not this time. Here's the unredacted transcript.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2lhepaU4AAXemG.jpg

There's no room for ambiguity in it at all. Anyone who calls Trump a Nazi apologist based on this lie is either deliberately misled by the "free press", or a liar him/herself. You get to pick which one of these you are.