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Re:Ask HN: How does your company approach hiring diversity? by natalyarostova on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @01:55PM (#22311590)
Isn't it funny how these things go? I also have the same disgust reaction as you. Yet when I talk to my wife/friends about their startups being all male, our private and friendly conversations about how to build a more inclusive environment feel productive and healthy.

Yet when this natural and friendly desire to build these environments is matched to anodyne corporatized language and KPIs, it begins to feel (and I want to emphasize that this is an emotional reaction) gross and forced.

I wonder how we can preserve sincerity at scale...

Re:Ask HN: How does your company approach hiring diversity? by gizmo686 on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @04:33PM (#22313018)
When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure.

Your friendly conversations are about building a more inclusive environment. All else being equal, that results in a more diverse workforce.

Measuring inclusivity and fairness is hard, so coorporations instead optimize for a more measurable metric: demographic diversity. The easiest way to optimize that metric is discrimination. Coorporations, being optimization machines look for the most effcient way of optimizing the metric that is (broadly) legal, which still looks fairly discriminatory.

Re:Ask HN: How does your company approach hiring diversity? by natalyarostova on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @06:10PM (#22313796)
Sounds about right.