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Re:Apple engineer killed in Tesla crash had previously compl... by aguyfromnb on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @07:58AM (#22308403)
>It may be completely unreliable but even a toaster that always burns the bread is called a toaster

This argument is leaning toward the ridiculous.

I think only you and Elon Musk consider a "greater than zero chance of making it to your destination without intervention" to be self-driving.

Re:Apple engineer killed in Tesla crash had previously compl... by rootusrootus on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @10:36AM (#22309627)
Musk has good reason -- he's been selling an expensive "full self driving" package for a couple years and in order to deliver he needs to redefine the term. He's already working hard on that.
Re:Apple engineer killed in Tesla crash had previously compl... by stephenr on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @08:02AM (#22308427)
And I think you're being ridiculously pedantic if you think that a list of caveats and asterisks in the fine print means that average Joe B. Motorist doesn't view the Autopilot/Summon/etc features as some degree of "self driving".