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Re:N26 will be leaving the UK by davidw on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @01:24PM (#22301014)
> at your one specific branch,

Italy is the same way and it is awful. We signed up for our bank account at one specific branch of a bank in Padova, Italy, and it's impossible to do much besides withdraw some cash at other branches. It's so dumb.

Re:N26 will be leaving the UK by qubex on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @01:45PM (#22301283)
As an Italian, I understand this... but the obvious question is: why didn’t you open it at a branch more convenient for you?
Re:N26 will be leaving the UK by TulliusCicero on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @02:36PM (#22301848)
Do people not move in Italy or something?

I've encountered the same thing in Germany, when I log in I use the branch number of where we opened the account? Why? Who gives a shit about that? I certainly don't. But the bank does, for some unfathomable reason.

For each way German banks are better than American ones, it seems like there's a way in which they're backwards or overly conservative.

Re:N26 will be leaving the UK by qubex on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @04:50PM (#22303285)
Not very much, no... we call it ’campanilismo’: the tendency for people to live out their lives within earshot of their town’s church’s bell-tower (campanile).

Side-story: southern Italians who relocated to the industrialising North during the ‘Italian Economic Miracle’ of the 1950s to 1970s referred to the process as ‘emigrating’. Until it was looked down upon by more modern sensitivities, they were referred to as ‘immigrants’, and their offspring referred to as first- and second-generation immigrants.

It really is a rather static society, though now there’s a significant and constant flow of young graduates from the hideously unemployment-afflicted South towards the North, or abroad since the Great Stagnation set in about fifteen years ago.

Re:N26 will be leaving the UK by Scoundreller on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @05:09PM (#22303461)
> when I log in I use the branch number of where we opened the account? Why? Who gives a shit about that? I certainly don't. But the bank does, for some unfathomable reason.

In the US and Canada, you’ll have a home branch too. Usually it doesn’t come up in anything day-to-day.

State laws for one thing may apply to accounts opened in a particular state.

But if a bank merges or gets acquired, or fails, and some branches get sold/divested, and not necessarily to one party.

One could find themselves a customer of a bank that is no longer local to them.

Here’s a merger that had a divesture:

https://www.bauerfinancial.com/2019/12/09/its-truist-theres-...

Re:N26 will be leaving the UK by joshuaissac on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @05:20PM (#22303580)
Other than having to enter the branch number, are there are other restrictions based on where you opened the account in Germany?

I ask because in the UK, each bank branch has a six-digit "sort code", which others will need to know in addition to your account number to transfer you money. However, you can open an account at a branch and never step foot in that branch again afterwards, only ever using other branches. Account numbers are only unique for the same sort code.

Re:N26 will be leaving the UK by zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @08:04PM (#22304724)
It's not even a thing "in Germany". There may be some banks that do this, but I would say most don't. But then, most banks are relatively regional, so while you can use any branch of the bank, there won't be any branches of your bank if you travel far enough--and if you are with your local Sparkasse, for example, then that is your bank, the Sparkasse in the next bigger city over has nothing to do with them (well, yeah, they have, but they most definitely are a separate bank).
Re:N26 will be leaving the UK by TulliusCicero on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @02:58AM (#22306828)
Yeah, my wife wanted to open a separate account for her new job, and they said she'd have to go visit the original branch.

This is at Deutsche Bank, by the way, not some podunk obscure bank.

Re:N26 will be leaving the UK by Hamuko on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @04:57PM (#22303354)
In Finland, the biggest bank is actually just a group of local banks. So if I sign up for a bank account up north, I am the customer of the bank way up there, which is a separate legal entity from the bank down in the south.

Of course, if you do move and you want to apply for a new credit card, they will mail the card and paper work to any of the locations, so it's not that bad. And all of the banks in the group have an unified online banking system, no branch numbers needed. However, when I switched between the different banks, I had to get new login details for the online bank, which was kinda sucky.

Re:N26 will be leaving the UK by davidw on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @01:50PM (#22301344)
We lived in one place, then moved. We got our mortgage via the one close to us prior to the move. Now we live in the US and it doesn't matter so much as trying to do anything with the bank from here is pretty much impossible. We had asked about having everything moved over to the branch closer to our home, but apparently the logistical requirements are close to those for sending a manned mission to the moon.
Re:N26 will be leaving the UK by jaclaz on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @02:33PM (#22301807)
I can tell you that, in Italy, there is not a "standard", in the sense that not all banks are the same, and often one that excels in something is terrible in another aspect.

With home-banking these differences are even more marked, some sites have "reasonable" possibilities offered to the customer, some other have next to none (besides checking your account) some have relatively simple workflows some other are so stupidly complex that you give up.

More or less all of them (the sites) have an inane amount of meaningless dashboard/graphics, and very poor tools (as an example to download some data).

However, when it comes to "serious" matters things are seemingly "random" in the way they change from bank to bank, personal anecdata, a few years ago when an old relative died, to access the accounts it took the heirs (with exactly the SAME documentation):

Bank #1: 3 days <- exceptionally fast

Bank #2: 10 days <- I would say "appropriate" or "logical"

Bank #3: 7 months (or 210 days) <- completely "crazy"

Re:N26 will be leaving the UK by oAlbe on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @03:03PM (#22302212)
In Italy there's also the problem that most banks don't allow you to receive wire transfers from outside the SEPA area. I had a hard time finding a bank that would allow me to receive transfers from the US. Some of them were actually baffled when I called for information at the idea of someone wanting to receive money from oversea.

And let's not even get into keeping an account in another currency. My bank apparently never had to do anything of the sorts, and after digging for information they told me it would cost about 400€ per year just keep the account open.

Re:N26 will be leaving the UK by riffraff on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @04:09PM (#22302885)
FWIW, fineco will let you have foreign currency accounts, for free, and with minimal conversion fees, it's pretty convenient.
Re:N26 will be leaving the UK by oAlbe on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @07:32PM (#22304547)
That's actually very useful to know, thank you for the information!
Re:N26 will be leaving the UK by smabie on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @06:44PM (#22304211)
Do Italians not invest in US securities at all? Seems kind of strange...
Re:N26 will be leaving the UK by jaclaz on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @05:51AM (#22307759)
Well, you don't strictly need an account in dollars to invest in US securities (but you are more exposed to exchange risks) while it is handy for other kinds of investments in US dollars.

As riffraff said, Fineco is one of the very few banks (maybe the only one) that gives the possibility to have foreign currency accounts (linked to a "main" Euro account) at a "reasonable" cost, which is a good thing to have if you deal a lot with the US (both with receiving US dollars and spending in US dollars), but that is not needed for "normal" activities.

The "conto in divisa estera" (that quite a few banks have) is basically aimed to business entities (like firms doing import/export) and is usually rather expensive, or - to be more accurate - has very high fixed costs.

The alternative in the case of someone receiving US dollars may be some form of accounts with credit/debit cards issuers, but - again generally speaking - they - besides offering less possibilities (and not being "properly" a bank) tend to have low fixed costs but higher commissions/fees on single operations.

Re:N26 will be leaving the UK by rocho on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @08:01AM (#22308420)
I do. I have an account with Interactive Brokers and I can easily deposit EUR. I can buy US stocks and options in USD and IB takes care of all the details (internally, it shows up as a short USD position).

Investing from the banks themselves it's also possible but it involves higher fees. Using IB has the disadvantage that I have to do the taxes myself.

Re:N26 will be leaving the UK by oAlbe on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @07:28PM (#22304518)
I've yet to figure that out. Personally, I'd love to be able to easily invest in a vanguard fund, or even just have the ability to put money every month on index funds, but so far from what I've seen doesn't seem to be possible.
Re:N26 will be leaving the UK by rocho on Wednesday February 12, 2020 @08:03AM (#22308432)
You can easily buy everything you want from Interactive Brokers. You can deposit EUR and do the transactions in other currencies. The interface is old and complicated, but very powerful. You will have to do the taxes yourself though.
Re:N26 will be leaving the UK by davidw on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @02:36PM (#22301844)
Be curious to hear the banks' names.
Re:N26 will be leaving the UK by jaclaz on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @03:24PM (#22302407)
>Be curious to hear the banks' names.

Ow, come on, you know the saying:

[Italian]

Si dice il peccato e non il peccatore.

[/Italian]

More seriously, as said that is single point anecdata, it is perfectly possible that today a similar test would give completely different results.

Re:N26 will be leaving the UK by davidw on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @03:40PM (#22302587)
They're banks; large corporations. It's not like anyone's naming an employee there or something.

And I do understand that things vary. One time, for instance, I even had a package arrive quickly through Poste Italiane.

Re:N26 will be leaving the UK by briandear on Tuesday February 11, 2020 @02:40PM (#22301892)
What’s the point of branches? It isn’t like computers aren’t a thing.