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Re:Living without a SIM card by thefounder on Sunday February 09, 2020 @09:38AM (#22282285)
Don't blame the EU just yet.

1. EU didn't force the banks to use SMS

2. EU is aware of the privacy/security issue of SMS and is planning to actually ban using SMS otp as a form of strong auth

https://www.zdnet.com/article/german-banks-are-moving-away-f...

Re:Living without a SIM card by chewz on Sunday February 09, 2020 @09:41AM (#22282302)
I wasn't blaming EU (I am not in a habit of bashing EU) and I am not saying this is completely bad law. I am just observing the reality on the ground.
Re:Living without a SIM card by hsitz on Sunday February 09, 2020 @11:52AM (#22282982)
As I understand your point it has absolutely nothing to do with it being illegal to not have a SIM card. Your point is simply that it is impractical not to have a SIM card because that makes it difficult to do bank transactions. Big difference, and using 'illegal' in this context is highly misleading.
Re:Living without a SIM card by derefr on Sunday February 09, 2020 @01:27PM (#22283495)
I think the implication is that if you wanted to function without a SIM card, your only way to do that would involve eschewing all above-board fiscal infrastructure and working with the grey/black market instead.

It's like being an outlaw, or a member of an untouchable caste: sure, you could just hide in a hole forever and wouldn't be breaking any laws, but in order to do anything you'd have to do it in a way that breaks a law.

Re:Living without a SIM card by ryanlol on Monday February 10, 2020 @08:57AM (#22289097)
But that’s just not true.
Re:Living without a SIM card by thefounder on Sunday February 09, 2020 @09:51AM (#22282368)
My point was really that the banks will be forced (by EU)to drop sms as SCA anyway. Legislation for that to happen is already in place.