Re:Critical Bluetooth vulnerability in Android
by madez on Friday February 07, 2020 @06:30AM
(#22265008)
We surely need regulation that demands at least delayed publication of firmware source and hardware documentation, I agree. The analogy to regulation in the food industry is enlightening.
It's easier to achieve regulation when people care and show that they care. It seems to me, voting now with your wallet is one of the most direct ways to make a case.
Re:Critical Bluetooth vulnerability in Android
by clarry on Friday February 07, 2020 @07:06AM
(#22265201)
Voting against the tyranny of the ignorant masses (or just people who also value convenience; or those who can't afford expensive) is a discarded vote. Your pennies are not going to change the world.
Re:Critical Bluetooth vulnerability in Android
by madez on Friday February 07, 2020 @07:16AM
(#22265254)
Unlike in some political systems, in the market the winner doesn't take all, but rather all receive their votes. Even then, I don't understand the psychology underlying the concept "discarded vote". I vote for what I think is best. To me that is what votes are all about. Is the psychological desire to be part of the winning group responsible?
Re:Critical Bluetooth vulnerability in Android
by tripzilch on Saturday February 08, 2020 @07:37AM
(#22275433)
I think you're taking the analogy of "vote with your wallet" a bit too far. It's not actual voting, or democratic, it just means that whoever has the most money decides. It's not really comparable to a political system of voting (and if you think it does seem suspiciously similar, that probably means that political system is broken).
> I vote for what I think is best.
Maybe you're an exception, but if you're talking about "vote with your wallet", then the vast majority will actually vote what they think is best for their wallets.
I mean, if you're going to let money decide, then expect the outcome to benefit money.
Re:Critical Bluetooth vulnerability in Android
by clarry on Friday February 07, 2020 @10:57AM
(#22267197)
If you know you're voting for a niche candidate that cannot win, then that vote achieves nothing. It amounts to as much as not voting at all; voting, then, is an empty ritual, just a rain dance. Psychological desire has nothing to do with it, it's just hard facts.
Re:Critical Bluetooth vulnerability in Android
by madez on Friday February 07, 2020 @11:48AM
(#22267843)
Even in an archaic the-winner-takes-all vote, the result reveals important information besides determining the winner. That information can influence other voters, vote options, and the winners behavior.
Re:Critical Bluetooth vulnerability in Android
by kortilla on Friday February 07, 2020 @05:56PM
(#22272041)
We’re talking about voting with your wallet. The vendor you pick doesn’t need to “win”, it just needs to get enough to survive. This is why voting with your wallet is much more powerful than voting for winner-take-all representatives in a political system.
Re:Critical Bluetooth vulnerability in Android
by Normal_gaussian on Friday February 07, 2020 @06:45AM
(#22265092)
I don't think many people are talking directly to their officials about it. It certainly isn't something my local representatives talk about, and the political consultation groups some of my uni-friends now work in definitely don't have it on their radar.
Re:Critical Bluetooth vulnerability in Android
by Mirioron on Friday February 07, 2020 @04:11PM
(#22270996)
How do I vote with my wallet though? The only alternative is an iPhone which fulfills a somewhat different role functionally.
Re:Critical Bluetooth vulnerability in Android
by dTal on Saturday February 08, 2020 @01:12PM
(#22277316)
>This is like saying "we dont need regulations in meat packing, every individual can become educated in butchery cleanliness and track the supply chains for the products they buy and everything will be better!"
People say this kind of thing all the time, even on HN. It's a libertarian saw that the FDA is unneccesary and obstructionist. Personally I think it's deranged, but apparently it's an ideological battle that's still being fought.
watches the plan fail yet again
This is like saying "we dont need regulations in meat packing, every individual can become educated in butchery cleanliness and track the supply chains for the products they buy and everything will be better!"