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Re:Environmental lawyer who won a judgment against Chevron l... by oefrha on Friday February 07, 2020 @04:18AM (#22264364)
> Even though the ruling was subsequently upheld by the Ecuadorian Supreme Court, Chevron immediately made clear that it would not be paying the judgment. Instead, Chevron moved its assets out of the country, making it impossible for the Ecuadorians to collect.

WTF? A nation state couldn’t have seized the assets? It seems that multinational megacorps are truly more powerful than and above the law in small countries these days.

Re:Environmental lawyer who won a judgment against Chevron l... by Lazare on Friday February 07, 2020 @09:32AM (#22266261)
This isn't about scale, it's about location. Ecuador is a LOT more powerful than you are, but assuming you are not currently in Ecuador and don't have any bank accounts in Ecuador, how do you think they could seize any of your assets, if they had a mind to? Their options start (and very nearly end) at "sending you a polite request".

The backstory here is, Chevron used to have a lot of assets in Ecuador as part of a joint venture with the Ecuador state oil company. The joint venture wound up, Chevron left, and now there's some dispute over whether any remaining clean-up is properly the responsibility of Chevron or Ecuador. But this is being discussed after they closed everything down, sold up, and left.

All that's left if for Ecuador to go try and convince the legal system of other countries (where Chevron does have assets) to do something. And so far, that's not working very well for them.

Re:Environmental lawyer who won a judgment against Chevron l... by oliwarner on Saturday February 08, 2020 @07:57AM (#22275492)
> Their options start (and very nearly end) at "sending you a polite request".

They can send much nastier things too. When you get to state-level actions, the law, or at least the repercussions for breaking it gets a lot iffier.

Re:Environmental lawyer who won a judgment against Chevron l... by austincheney on Friday February 07, 2020 @04:47AM (#22264511)
Re:Environmental lawyer who won a judgment against Chevron l... by mapcars on Friday February 07, 2020 @04:21AM (#22264379)
>megacorps are truly more powerful than and above the law in small countries these days.

Why in small countries? They do what they want in America too.

Re:Environmental lawyer who won a judgment against Chevron l... by pjc50 on Friday February 07, 2020 @05:32AM (#22264729)
Only if they're _American_ megacorps. BP paid $20bn in fines for Deepwater Horizon.
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Re:Environmental lawyer who won a judgment against Chevron l... by verbify on Friday February 07, 2020 @05:06AM (#22264594)
I believe this comment goes against hacker news guidelines - "Be kind. Don't be snarky"

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Environmental lawyer who won a judgment against Chevron l... by Clomez on Friday February 07, 2020 @05:02AM (#22264574)
Cmoon, it's proper point, we are pretty much F*cked everywhere...
Re:Environmental lawyer who won a judgment against Chevron l... by thiagoharry on Friday February 07, 2020 @06:26AM (#22264986)
Of course they are. Megacorps interests already justified coups in some countries.
Re:Environmental lawyer who won a judgment against Chevron l... by Bombthecat on Friday February 07, 2020 @08:55AM (#22265922)
You should read shadowrun. I think the system there is basically our future...