Re:Zero-days in Cisco Discovery Protocol
by kickling on Thursday February 06, 2020 @05:13PM
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The security is definitely better than in the 90s, for what I've heard. The impact of an attack is however greater. You can literally shut down an entire country today, something you could not do back then.
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Re:Zero-days in Cisco Discovery Protocol
by tptacek on Thursday February 06, 2020 @05:16PM
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Documented state-level kinetic computer security attacks go back a lot further than you think they do.
Re:Zero-days in Cisco Discovery Protocol
by math_and_stuff on Thursday February 06, 2020 @05:58PM
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Is there prior art before alleged sabotage leading to pipeline explosion in 1982? [1]
Zetter's Countdown to Zero Day points to that with skepticism and also talks about Kosovo as one of earliest cases, as does Sandworm.
Do you think this is roughly correct?
Re:Zero-days in Cisco Discovery Protocol
by tptacek on Thursday February 06, 2020 @06:13PM
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I'm thinking about Kosovo.
Re:Zero-days in Cisco Discovery Protocol
by SahAssar on Thursday February 06, 2020 @05:50PM
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Yeah, that's what I meant. The security might be better, but the attack surface and attack impact has grown a lot faster than than the overall security.
Re:Zero-days in Cisco Discovery Protocol
by GillBates666 on Thursday February 06, 2020 @07:52PM
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I'm sorry, but how do you literally shut down a country? Hyperbole much?
Re:Zero-days in Cisco Discovery Protocol
by jodrellblank on Friday February 07, 2020 @01:08AM
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I suppose if I point out a government hit by ransomware and forced to run with pen and paper just last year[1], an attack on a nuclear power plant which could have been targetted at power generation[2], an attack taking down 1/5th of the world's ocean freight and a company with enough annual revenue to be in the top 100 countries by GDP[3], or a classic software bug taking out power to 45 million people in the USA for two weeks[4], you're just going to claim those aren't important because they didn't "literally" shut down every operation in an entire country, or weren't deliberate attacks trying to do that, and therefore they aren't evidence that it could happen?
[1] https://nunatsiaq.com/stories/article/government-of-nunavut-...
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet#Iran_as_a_target
[3] https://www.forbes.com/sites/leemathews/2017/08/16/notpetya-...
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_blackout_of_2003
Re:Zero-days in Cisco Discovery Protocol
by nitrogen on Thursday February 06, 2020 @10:04PM
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Hack the power grid or core network/telecom infrastructure.
Re:Zero-days in Cisco Discovery Protocol
by blaser-waffle on Friday February 07, 2020 @02:23PM
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See also: suspected Russian attacks on Estonia related to the a statue being taken down