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Re:Kotlin becomes second most popular language on the JVM by imtringued on Thursday February 06, 2020 @10:09AM (#22256488)
Grails is 13 years at this point and still the only way to take advantage of the JEE Java ecosystem while also leaving your sanity intact. Since Grails 4 it is slowly moving away from Spring to Micronaut so the JEE ecosystem may die before Grails does.
Re:Kotlin becomes second most popular language on the JVM by pjmlp on Thursday February 06, 2020 @11:44AM (#22257550)
That is irrelevant for Java as platform and programming language, just libraries that come and go, Java stays.

Just like C on UNIX, JavaScript on the browser, ....