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Re:Red meat and processed food 'not back on the menu' accord... by clSTophEjUdRanu on Wednesday February 05, 2020 @06:08PM (#22251846)
I'm looking forward to the keto rebuttal.
Re:Red meat and processed food 'not back on the menu' accord... by lukifer on Wednesday February 05, 2020 @06:33PM (#22252005)
The standard objections apply:

- Correlation, not causation

- Self-reporting questionaire

- Not controlling for meat quality/sourcing (though at least they differentiate "processed meats")

Re:Red meat and processed food 'not back on the menu' accord... by Mikeb85 on Wednesday February 05, 2020 @06:35PM (#22252017)
What rebuttal?

> red meat: 0.17% over 10 years, 0.41% over 20 years and 0.62% over 30 years

0.62% increase over 30 years is next to nothing, especially when you consider that many people have shit diet habits anyway.

Re:Red meat and processed food 'not back on the menu' accord... by rhinoceraptor on Wednesday February 05, 2020 @06:41PM (#22252052)
I'd actually expect that to be higher than it is, just given that red meat has been vilified for 50+ years by public health officials.

I'm not sure if there's a name for the reverse of healthy user bias, but I like to think of it as blaming baseball for oral cancer, rather than the chewing tobacco common among players in the sport.

Re:Red meat and processed food 'not back on the menu' accord... by mudsnail on Wednesday February 05, 2020 @07:13PM (#22252258)
Those numbers are assuming 2 servings per week. How many meat eater limits themselves to that few of servings?
Re:Red meat and processed food 'not back on the menu' accord... by ricardobeat on Wednesday February 05, 2020 @07:24PM (#22252318)
The numbers in the study are something like 2 servings meat, 3 chicken, 1.6 fish weekly.
Re:Red meat and processed food 'not back on the menu' accord... by mudsnail on Wednesday February 05, 2020 @07:30PM (#22252356)
Haven't looked at the original study, but from the article

>>>In terms of the actual difference eating 2 servings a week would make to an individual's baseline risk of CVD, the researchers calculated:

processed meat: you would increase your risk by 0.4% over 10 years, 1.02% over 20 years and 1.74% over 30 years

red meat: 0.17% over 10 years, 0.41% over 20 years and 0.62% over 30 years

poultry: 0.20% over 10 years, 0.54% over 20 years and 1.03% over 30 years

Re:Red meat and processed food 'not back on the menu' accord... by elhudy on Wednesday February 05, 2020 @06:38PM (#22252038)
The way your body processes food during ketosis is so different from processing "traditional" diets that I hardly think it would be relevant enough to warrant a rebuttal.

I do like hearing Mark's opinions on such things though: https://www.marksdailyapple.com/what-does-the-who-report-mea...