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Re:Is Catalina a Good Upgrade Yet? by scarface74 on Sunday February 02, 2020 @10:13PM (#22221130)
That’s true. But I don’t really care about the performance of my external hard drives. They store movies, photos, etc where as long as the hard drive can keep up with the streaming requirements - any hard drive can - it doesn’t matter.

The other purpose is backups. Again if my backups are slow, who cares?

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Re:Is Catalina a Good Upgrade Yet? by Wowfunhappy on Monday February 03, 2020 @12:13AM (#22221587)
> I don’t really care about the performance of my external hard drives. They store movies, photos, etc

I care very very very much about the speed of the drive that stores my video files. I need to be able to open and seek through them quickly so I can find the clip I'm looking for. When you're working with ProRes stuff, this becomes a big deal.

Luckily, good quality spinning hard drives can be fast enough, at least for my needs. Unfortunately, they're only fast enough when they're not running APFS. :(

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Re:Is Catalina a Good Upgrade Yet? by jupp0r on Monday February 03, 2020 @12:56AM (#22221760)
> Luckily, good quality spinning hard drives can be fast enough, at least for my needs. Unfortunately, they're only fast enough when they're not running APFS. :(

Nothing prevents you from putting for videos on an HFS+ volume and use it from Catalina. It just can't boot from one.

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Re:Is Catalina a Good Upgrade Yet? by Wowfunhappy on Monday February 03, 2020 @01:10PM (#22227071)
Good point—this conversation got a little muddled. I actually use either ZFS or NTFS + Tuxera for external drives on Mac, which works great (especially ZFS).
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Re:Is Catalina a Good Upgrade Yet? by Dylan16807 on Monday February 03, 2020 @02:38AM (#22222182)
Just listing a bunch of photos is going to have terrible performance on APFS. They don't need to make it work amazingly on hard drives, but they need to do some basic things like lumping together related metadata.
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Re:Is Catalina a Good Upgrade Yet? by scarface74 on Monday February 03, 2020 @08:06AM (#22223768)
What benefits do you really get from using APFS on external magnetic disks that are really so significant that you wouldn’t just use HPFS?
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Re:Is Catalina a Good Upgrade Yet? by Dylan16807 on Monday February 03, 2020 @02:36PM (#22228060)
Snapshots are always good.
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