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Re:Verlan: French slang that inverses words by simias on Sunday February 02, 2020 @07:11AM (#22216598)
This rampant prescriptivism among us frenchies is really tiring after a while. I blame the Académie. Modern French is botched Middle French which is botched Old French which is botched Vulgar Latin which is botched Classical Latin (this last one is a bit incorrect but you get the idea). "Aujourd'hui"'s ethymology is a proof of that.

I agree that repetition for emphasis is an innovation of modern French though. English for instance would never ever do something like that. That would be completely, entirely, absolutely preposterous. I myself wouldn't stand for it.

Re:Verlan: French slang that inverses words by dorfsmay on Sunday February 02, 2020 @12:50PM (#22218186)
> English for instance would never ever do something like that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irregardless

Or one that absolutely drives me nuts:

"A great rate of speed"

Which is a journalist way to say "I failed high school physics, but I'm still going to try to sound smart".

Re:Verlan: French slang that inverses words by loeg on Sunday February 02, 2020 @02:46PM (#22218948)
Or exonerative tense:

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/past_exonerative

In which journalists use the passive voice to excuse, e.g., police shootings. "The victim was shot and killed in an officer-involved shooting." Rather than: "the officer shot and killed the victim."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/07/14/...

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/14/washington/14mistakes.htm...

Re:Verlan: French slang that inverses words by ben509 on Sunday February 02, 2020 @02:17PM (#22218728)
My favorite is still "laxadaisical" for those situations when neither "lax" nor "lackadaisical" are enough.
Re:Verlan: French slang that inverses words by emiliovesprini on Sunday February 02, 2020 @04:43PM (#22219658)
> This rampant prescriptivism

really threw me off when learning French. I went from the mostly benign and spelling-only prescriptivism of Spanish to the complete and utter anarchy that is English to this weird situation French is in where it's the worst of both worlds: it has all of the rules and all of the exceptions.

In some situations following all of the rules ('course a pied' over 'running' type stuff) will make you positively odd, and in others ignoring some specific rules makes you sound uncultured.

Re:Verlan: French slang that inverses words by yodsanklai on Sunday February 02, 2020 @10:31AM (#22217326)
> This rampant prescriptivism among us frenchies is really tiring after a while

I dislike "Au jour d'aujourd'hui" because of the redundancy. There are shorter and more elegant ways to say the exact same thing. I don't know if we can talk about prescriptivism in that case. It just gives a negative impression on the author (like when you see an anti-pattern in computer code).

Re:Verlan: French slang that inverses words by xxyyxx314 on Monday February 03, 2020 @03:38AM (#22222468)
Au jour du jour d'aujourd'hui, I beg to differ.