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Re:Thousands of workers jobs cut as former boss walks away w... by TaylorAlexander on Saturday February 01, 2020 @01:29PM (#22212204)
The question is whether these contracts make sense. Why are the people who fabricate the aircraft treated as expendable while the executives get a golden parachute? Why was this contract considered sound in the first place while some workers can get fired with immediate closure of their health care?

It makes one wonder if the workers should unionize. I do understand multiple companies (Boeing and several suppliers) are mentioned here, so maybe some of them have some kind of union. But the story is a microcosm of our times. A CEO who seems complicit in an episode that killed many and lost the company $13B gets paid enough to relax in luxury forever while the regular people who had nothing to do with the problem or actively fought against it suffer.

To me, the fact that the CEOs contract was agreed upon in advance does not suddenly make this situation fine. Perhaps we need to reformulate massive companies like this as worker owned cooperatives. Certainly in my mind we need to end the huge unequal privilege that executives have, however that should work out.

Re:Thousands of workers jobs cut as former boss walks away w... by bobbob1921 on Saturday February 01, 2020 @01:47PM (#22212347)
bc we live in a free labor market , and that is what it takes to attract talent at the c level (+ supply/demand).

not sure why this same scrutiny does not apply to pro athletes or actors/recording artists.

Re:Thousands of workers jobs cut as former boss walks away w... by foogazi on Saturday February 01, 2020 @02:34PM (#22212677)
it made sense to the exCEO and Boeing, the two parties that made that agreement
Re:Thousands of workers jobs cut as former boss walks away w... by maxerickson on Saturday February 01, 2020 @02:45PM (#22212749)
That's a pretty boring answer.

A good answer would address whether society should tolerate such agreements (corporations get special privileges under the law, so the question of whether they are making good use of those privileges is always on the table) and explore the dynamics that lead large corporations to extend huge salaries to a relatively small pool of people, even though there's lots of evidence that they aren't particularly capable of predicting the value a given individual will deliver.

Re:Thousands of workers jobs cut as former boss walks away w... by aetherson on Saturday February 01, 2020 @01:34PM (#22212248)
I don't think you know what "golden parachute" means.
Re:Thousands of workers jobs cut as former boss walks away w... by toomuchtodo on Saturday February 01, 2020 @01:41PM (#22212308)
You’re arguing semantics. Getting to keep your previously agreed upon comp for failing tremendously (costing your org billions of dollars and contributing to macro economic nation state GDP suppression) can still be expressed as a golden parachute, even if a separate payment to separate from Boeing wasn’t made.
Re:Thousands of workers jobs cut as former boss walks away w... by aetherson on Saturday February 01, 2020 @04:29PM (#22213373)
Sure, it can be expressed as a golden parachute by someone who is deeply confused by what a golden parachute is.

A golden parachute is a payment to get someone or of the company. It's a way for a company to part with someone without drama, lawsuits, etcetera. And sure, it could also be corruption.

It is not accumulated pensions over 35 years. Obviously. In a "black is not white" kind of way.

I have no particular knowledge of this dude. Maybe he was awful. Maybe he did as well as anyone could have in the circumstances. More likely, somewhere in the middle.

But his pension from more than there decades ago is not a golden parachute, and nobody would ever sign a contract with a three decade claw-back. This guy's total compensation does not sound terribly high by the standards of CEOs of this size organization.