Re:Not everyone has an internal monologue
by not_kurt_godel on Friday January 31, 2020 @03:45AM
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This sounds like a nice form of meditation, but:
> count it without thinking numbers
...what? Are you telling me you can do this for some arbitrary period of time and then tell me the number of breaths you took, if asked? I find that really difficult to believe...
Re:Not everyone has an internal monologue
by kaetemi on Friday January 31, 2020 @04:48AM
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Count like rhythmic tapping.
Same way you can tap your finger four times without counting, and you can do four taps four times without counting those.
Maybe more a musical skill.
Re:Not everyone has an internal monologue
by sjapkee on Friday January 31, 2020 @06:15AM
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I tried this right now and noticed that I count tap for the first time. But the most important thing is that all of them are different and form a repeatable pattern. So brain just remembers the sensation of the fourth tap and I can tap in fourths subconsciously for a while.
The other way to deal with this exercise is just tapping for the odd count in one place and for the even in another. So you know when the fourth tap is because you subconsciously know it was long enough time after the second one and it is in the right place on the table.
Re:Not everyone has an internal monologue
by feanaro on Friday January 31, 2020 @06:48AM
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This is called subitizing (or subitization).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subitizing
Re:Not everyone has an internal monologue
by keymone on Friday January 31, 2020 @04:36AM
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no, i count to four or ten and reset
Re:Not everyone has an internal monologue
by kthartic on Friday January 31, 2020 @04:43AM
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so you are thinking numbers then?
Re:Not everyone has an internal monologue
by keymone on Friday January 31, 2020 @04:45AM
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you don't think "one" every time you do something once. just like that you can train to not think "one-two" and not to think "one-two three-four" and so on. gets harder the larger the number, but it's a matter of practice.
Like bars in music? Like I can put on the metronome to, say, tic-toc-toc-toc (different sound on 1 vs 2/3/4) and will intuitively know when I've hit 2, 4, 8, 16, 32 bars. I just feel it. I might be able to use this method for counting, just hearing clicks, and count to 16 bars or something, while doing whatever else, even though I am like Feynman in not being able to talk out loud while counting.
- count
- count some physiological process within you (breathing or heartbeat)
- recognize that you can count it without thinking numbers
- recognize that same “emptiness” can continue for a while even after you stop following the physiological process
- rinse and repeat until you can drop into that “emptiness” and stay there at will