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Re:The Failure of the iPad by hinkley on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @10:53AM (#22181841)
I’ve had hardware failures/loss at a mercifully low rate of one a decade. I learned long ago that storing work on your own computer is a recipe for disaster. If it’s worth doing, it’s worth uploading to the network.

I can tell not everyone feels that way when I tell others that my computer died and they offer sympathy like I just lost a relative. It shouldn’t take more than three hours to set up a machine with your work stuff, or somebody isn’t doing their job.

Re:The Failure of the iPad by RodgerTheGreat on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @03:45PM (#22185598)
Having the ability to back stuff up via a network is great.

Most of the time when we say "Cloud Services", though, it means exactly one specific vendor. If an app is designed to integrate with Dropbox and GitHub, I can't necessarily substitute an alternative, or run my own replacement instance. If a cloud-based solution becomes unavailable because the company is bought out, shut down, drops old API support, or simply because I've stepped onto an airplane, I'm stuck. The cloud is both a convenience and an accident waiting to happen.

My NAS at home has never sent me an email thanking me for participating in an Incredible Journey and disappeared.

Re:The Failure of the iPad by hinkley on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @04:06PM (#22185820)
I'm not talking about backing stuff up. I'm talking about not keeping data of business value on single points of failure in the first place. Those hardware failures weren't resolved in 3-4 hours by restoring backups, they were resolved by fetching and setting up things from systems of record. Version control. Artifactory. Runbooks in a Wiki.

If this data is useful, why am I bogarting it? I should be sharing it, as soon as possible. If some ears are too sensitive to see rough drafts, we can use obscurity or permissions to control premature messaging.

It's the same argument as Bus Numbers, or for DVCS, or feature branches. I don't want days or weeks worth of work hanging out on some engineer's system, which can get wet or take a tumble down the stairs on the way to a meeting or stay home for a week while down with the flu.

Backups are for people with a bus number of 1 (ie, mismanaged teams or personal projects).

Re:The Failure of the iPad by ubercow13 on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @11:10AM (#22182053)
Storing all your work in a Google account and then getting locked out of it for some reason is also kind of bad.
Re:The Failure of the iPad by compiler-guy on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @04:17PM (#22185932)
Getting locked out of online accounts is the 21st century's version of the twentieth-century's hard drive crash: "It's not a matter if of, but a matter of when."

So you should have a second repository of any data you have in any account, in a different location, provider, hard drive, or whatever. Because it's only a matter of time until you need it.

Re:The Failure of the iPad by hinkley on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @11:28AM (#22182307)
One, I didn’t say Google, but two, what are you doing that’s getting you locked out of a Google account for work?

Firewalls, people.

Re:The Failure of the iPad by ubercow13 on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @03:04PM (#22185176)
Say, logging into your account in a fashion which trips whatever heuristic they have for deciding if your account is compromised or just 'breaking their terms of service' with no further explanation. For example using 'suspicious' IPs like from some cloud provider, or from multiple countries in a short period of time, as these algorithms were written post-internet but pre-air travel. Who knows, honestly.

And yes this has happened to me, coincidentally after a period of travelling.

Some backed up hard drives in my house and a family member's are probably more reliable.

Re:The Failure of the iPad by egdod on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @12:15PM (#22183040)
Sometimes nothing.