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Re:U.S. files lawsuits over robocall scams by lozaning on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @07:40PM (#22175907)
Do you know what Kitboga and the like do to get themselves targeted by scammers?

If I ever get calls like this I'll keep them on the line as long as I can as a kind of game. I get called like maybe once a quarter though.

Re:U.S. files lawsuits over robocall scams by ashonalla on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @08:45PM (#22176346)
Next time you get a call, waste their time a little pretending to be slow and then do something to make them angry such as explain that you've been wasting their time and don't approve of their business methods. They'll put you on some uber-mark list as retaliation, and you'll get a couple of dozen calls over the next few days.
Re:U.S. files lawsuits over robocall scams by drewmol on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @09:18PM (#22176544)
>get a couple of dozen calls over the next few days.

For me, it's been years. I've irritated a lot of scammers. I've also a fake bd of 01/23/45 for most of my online life so I fit right into their target group.

Re:U.S. files lawsuits over robocall scams by Scoundreller on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @09:27PM (#22176614)
> Next time you get a call, waste their time a little pretending to be slow and then do something to make them angry such as explain that you've been wasting their time and don't approve of their business methods. They'll put you on some uber-mark list as retaliation, and you'll get a couple of dozen calls over the next few days.

Iunno, I do this every time and they usually hang up on me quickly.

If they uber-marked me, they'll just waste even more time. But alas it hasn't happened.

Re:U.S. files lawsuits over robocall scams by bottled_poe on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @01:41AM (#22178064)
Great, next step is to get this going for maximum impact: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DkF88BkpeE
Re:U.S. files lawsuits over robocall scams by prawn on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @11:08PM (#22177316)
It is very low effort to just put the phone down and waste their time until they realise. They are usually so deep into their script that they will talk for minutes.
Re:U.S. files lawsuits over robocall scams by kryptk on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @09:14PM (#22176518)
I was on my way out the door one morning, taking my dog to the vet to have a lump removed.

I was in a bad place.

The phone rang. I knew I shouldn't pick it up, but I was in a bad place.

It was "microsoft", and they needed immediate payment to avoid legal action.

I am a little ashamed of what happened next but I dumped every curse word I could think upon that indian guy. It had nothing to do with him really, but I really let him have it.

Honestly, I feel bad looking back at it.

He may have been wrong, but I was wronger.

He is trying to survive like everyone else.. who the hell am I to sit in the comfy first world and judge?

Re:U.S. files lawsuits over robocall scams by thekyle on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @09:41PM (#22176725)
Nothing to be ashamed of. The person on the other end of the phone was a criminal attempting to defraud you. You could have done much worse than just cursing them out.
Re:U.S. files lawsuits over robocall scams by AmericanChopper on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @12:20AM (#22177698)
> He is trying to survive like everyone else.. who the hell am I to sit in the comfy first world and judge?

This line of reasoning ultimately leads to the conclusion that morals only apply in situations where it’s comfortable and convenient to apply them. Perhaps any particular scammer has been the victim of their own set of injustices (or just as likely, perhaps not), but that in no way excuses their victimisation of others. They’re adults too. Not some poor lowly Indians who had no choice but to defraud the vulnerable.

Re:U.S. files lawsuits over robocall scams by dan-0 on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @01:48AM (#22178110)
> He is trying to survive like everyone else.. who the hell am I to sit in the comfy first world and judge?

He doesn't know you from a senile person living in poverty. They'll steal your money regardless of who you are. There's no moral justification for that. They are evil.

Re:U.S. files lawsuits over robocall scams by celticmusic on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @09:44PM (#22188443)
hitler is evil, they're just criminals.
Re:U.S. files lawsuits over robocall scams by Scoundreller on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @09:28PM (#22176626)
It's probably happened often enough that they're desensitized to it.
Re:U.S. files lawsuits over robocall scams by raverbashing on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @09:36PM (#22176693)
No, you're not wrong to defend yourself and to come back at someone who's being hostile to you

You're not trying to scam people, he is.

Re:U.S. files lawsuits over robocall scams by dan-0 on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @01:45AM (#22178087)
This. I used to have long commutes. I really enjoyed getting scam calls during the commutes and seeing how long I could keep them on. It was completely a game. I look at it that the longer I can occupy them the less time they have to take advantage of someone else.

These people are the lowest of the low, they prey on the senile and ignorant, stealing from them regardless of their economic status. There should be no pity. If I can end the conversation making the scammer regret their life decisions, or at least waste their time, it's a win.

Re:U.S. files lawsuits over robocall scams by ct0 on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @07:46PM (#22175948)
He generally plays the part of an old person 100% of the time. Also he has a huge following and fans submit numbers to him, so he generally calls them back
Re:U.S. files lawsuits over robocall scams by rauhl on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @09:55PM (#22176806)
> Do you know what Kitboga and the like do to get themselves targeted by scammers?

From my experience: have a phone number. The real reason that I decommissioned my old landline was that it had become unusable: calls at all hours of the day and night, none of which were wanted and most of which were illegitimate.

Re:U.S. files lawsuits over robocall scams by Kirby64 on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @12:17PM (#22183070)
Kitboga usually is the one calling the scammers. He has a form on his website where you can submit scammer phone numbers.

Although I'm sure he does get targeted, he also uses a ton of virtual phone numbers, so he's only getting calls unless he wants them...

Re:U.S. files lawsuits over robocall scams by Scoundreller on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @10:41PM (#22177121)
> Do you know what Kitboga and the like do to get themselves targeted by scammers?

Many of the scams are just sequential or random dialing.

So having a bunch of VoIP numbers is enough to multiply your calls.

Others have call back numbers so you just need a trustworthy group of friends/fans to feed them to you.