This comment was literally copy pasted from Reddit. Why would you do this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/investing/comments/evc2re/apple_202...

Same with the trillion dollar comment below.

It looks like he has a few more comments from reddit. Looks like the user is trying to get karma here by plagiarism.

Having high internet points makes you marginally more able to inject whatever hustle you've got going on into the conversation at some future date. Just a guess.

Could be a bot that copies high point top level comments on threads about the same URL from reddit to HN and vice versa in order to create accounts with high karma for future sock puppeting?

Ah the precious made up fame currency. Got to catch them all teh internetz pointz.

If Macs could be financed and upgraded like phones, that would be interesting to see.

Maybe it depends on country?

I'm in Japan and recently bought a mac mini with a 2 year interest free loan through a local company[0].

0: https://www.orico.co.jp

Isnt Apple financing available for Macs?

I think that's US only, right? Same with the iPhone upgrade program, and I don't think exists in Canada.

With interest, unlike the phones.

That's not entirely true. It's no interest for 18 months. https://www.apple.com/shop/browse/financing

Depends on your credit score if you get no interest on laptops, unlike with phones (where they approve you or don’t, but details remain the same). Also, there’s no trade up program on the laptop financing, so to go back to OP’s point, there isn’t an equivalent offering for laptops to what exists for phones.

Yes. A lot of the diehards over at /r/apple let slip occasionally how they are always financing the latest and greatest. Which is absurd to me especially for the mac product lines where you are overpaying by thousands for an outdated machine [1].

And the estimate of 3 year lifecycle for wearables like the watch and airpods seems overly optimistic. My airpods are a year old and the battery dwindles in about an hour or two before needing charging, my watch is bricked after 7 months.

When the current debt bubble pops it'll be interesting if it effects Apple revenue as hard as it will the college debt / car debt markets.

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIB389tqzCI

> watch is bricked after 7 months

Don't they have a 1-year warrantee?

I still have a series 0 Apple watch that works fine and is used everyday. How is your watch not working?

Same but I stopped wearing mine. 7 months life is too short if it was new. Should take it to Apple. All for complaining on the bad stuff, but this is a free throw.

The iPod came out a month after 9/11. The iPhone took off during the height of the recession.

> All of apple's top products were created before Cook took over in 2011.

So did you miss the part about how "wearables" -- chiefly the Watch and AirPods, which came out under Cook's watch -- is up 37% and now brings in more revenue than the Mac or the iPad, and nearly as much this quarter as Services did? And, for that matter, how services revenue is now a higher percentage of the non-iPhone revenue than any other segment, which is surely being driven in no small part by Apple Music (which is now the #1 streaming music service in the US), which also first appeared on Cook's watch?

I'm "cherrypicking data" about stuff launched under Cook's tenure that's wildly successful that you said couldn't possibly have happened. Good god, the paid Apple-bashing activity on some of these posts is absurd!

My favorite bit of this is how it seems like nobody wants to grant credit for incredible growth in existing product lines, as if that feat is trivial.

Everything is going to be less than phone revenue. When Apple entered the phone market there were already 1 billion phones being sold per year, now it's close to 5 billion.

> Apple's ability to sell a new iPhone every year

Anecdotally, it happens to me because the old one broke/discharge battery at alarming rate/charging port stops working/home button (back when it was physical) stuck

I'm much more satisfied with the mac line sans the immovable blocks masquerading as keyboard.

EDIT: I owned 5 iPhones over 10 years, so it's not yearly. My iPhone 4 lasted 5 years, the rest are not so fortunate.

Also anecdotal, but I've owned ~every iPhone since the launch-day original iPhone. I still own every single one, and they all still work like the day I bought them. My iPhone 5 was replaced the day after I bought it due to a few dead pixels. My iPhone X came down with some kind of touch digitizer problem in the first few months I owned it, and again, Apple replaced it under warranty. But overall, longevity for my iPhones has been comparable to every other Apple device I own (e.g. still have the Mac II I grew up with; still works fine).

You could open an Apple museum! I sometimes regret I threw away all old phones. I had a pre-iPhone smartphone with Windows and foldable keyboard, I however only used the stylus to type... I guess the iPhone was easier to use for normal people, and it didn't look like a geek phone...

What're you doing to your iPhones? I end up holding on to mine for 3+ years each because I can't kill the damn things and it feels so unnecessarily extravagant to upgrade more often.

Follow-up– if all these problems are necessitating yearly upgrades, why aren't you getting your phones fixed under their 1-year warrantee? Batteries, stuck buttons/switches, charging ports, etc. should all be covered.

Well, I had 5 over past 10 years. So it's not exactly that bad, I don't mean to bad mouth apple here, I stuck to them for a reason.

Also, technically, they still do work.

> Anecdotally, it happens to me because the old one broke/discharge battery at alarming rate/charging port stops working/home button (back when it was physical) stuck

After only 1 year?