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Re:A $300 projector can fool Tesla’s Autopilot by rtkwe on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @01:21PM (#22172370)
There is a solution already and it's LIDAR/RADAR. None of these should fool a LIDAR or combined LIDAR and camera system.
Re:A $300 projector can fool Tesla’s Autopilot by buran77 on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @01:42PM (#22172648)
"None of these should fool a LIDAR or combined LIDAR and camera system"

How would a LIDAR help with the lines on the road? At best it could see the guard rail or another car in its path and break to avoid a crash but this could very well take a car off the side of the road if there's no clear obstacle.

Re:A $300 projector can fool Tesla’s Autopilot by rtkwe on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @01:47PM (#22172687)
I had skimmed and saw the fake traffic sign and fake car examples both of which shouldn't fool LIDAR systems. It would have a much harder time with the fake lines situation, it'd rely on looking for curbs or something, maybe some inference based on how other cars are moving.
Re:A $300 projector can fool Tesla’s Autopilot by close04 on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @01:57PM (#22172816)
> I had skimmed and saw the fake traffic sign and fake car examples both of which shouldn't fool LIDAR systems

There's no RADAR/LIDAR system that would reasonably tell apart real from fake signs or lines (the lines being the real dangerous issue). They come in many shapes and sizes. A fake sign would also fool a human but overall a human driver has many other cues to base a decision on. At the very least someone trying to trick you would have to invest far more into the props used.

Re:A $300 projector can fool Tesla’s Autopilot by rtkwe on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @02:33PM (#22173198)
The fake signs in this example were projected/displayed in/on trees/billboards and would be ignored fairly easy because it would be the image embedded in a a shape that didn't match the shape of a sign. These types of signs shouldn't fool people, you could fool both human [0] and CV with a fake sign on a pole but it shouldn't fool either just projected onto a tree. With LIDAR you can tell if the image of the speed limit is on a speed limit sign or not.

[0] Though people would have an additional layer of reasoning about if the speed limit was reasonable for a particular set of road. Just putting up a 90 MPH speed limit on a random residential road even with a convincing sign should get people to do 90 on it. (Granted computers already have databases of posted speed limits they could draw from too)