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Re:Disk Prices on Amazon by joshstrange on Monday January 27, 2020 @01:04PM (#22162012)
If you are trying to build a NAS or similar then my suggestion is go with shucked WD EasyStore externals, you need to either use molex to sata power to bypass the 2.2v issue or tape the pin but they are WD Whites inside and work very well from my experience. I just keep waiting for the 14TB's to fall a little further so I can replace one of my 5TB parity drives with that so I can grow my array.
Re:Disk Prices on Amazon by ajphdiv on Monday January 27, 2020 @08:20PM (#22165576)
I think I hear /r/DataHoarder/ calling you.
Re:Disk Prices on Amazon by joshstrange on Monday January 27, 2020 @10:42PM (#22166239)
Oh, they have me hook, line, and sinker haha. Them along with /r/homelab and /r/unraid
Re:Disk Prices on Amazon by toast0 on Monday January 27, 2020 @10:39PM (#22166229)
> you need to either use molex to sata power to bypass the 2.2v issue or tape the pin

You mean the 3.3v issue. In most cases, you can also just clip the 3.3v wire that goes to the sata power connectors from your power supply. It's orange, you won't be missing out by not having it anymore, and it's easy to clip with wire cutters. You should put a dab of electrical tape on the cut ends, but a clean cut isn't likely to short on anything. Consider it updating your power supply to the latest SATA spec.

Some people do have sata enclosures that provide 3.3v, and they may need tape on their drives, or something more drastic.

Re:Disk Prices on Amazon by joshstrange on Monday January 27, 2020 @10:57PM (#22166315)
:headsmack: I couldn’t remember the right voltage and I googled “2.2v” and I found a few reddit threads and assumed that was correct. 3.3v is the right number, thank you for correcting me. Yeah I bought some tape to cover the pin if needed but I found the molex cables to be easier, I didn’t know you could just cut the wire, I feel stupid now lol.
Re:Disk Prices on Amazon by toast0 on Monday January 27, 2020 @11:32PM (#22166475)
Well, now you know; I found a couple people mentioning it in different forums, but there's a lot more posts on reddit, and I didn't see it mentioned there.
Re:Disk Prices on Amazon by dehrmann on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @01:48AM (#22167039)
> tape the pin

Been there, and it's worked well, but I did some research and used kapton tape. It's thin, and designed for use in electrical applications needing resistance.

Re:Disk Prices on Amazon by joshstrange on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @09:54AM (#22169893)
Yep, I’ve got a few rolls of Kapton tape sitting next to my desk. I haven’t used it yet since I just used the Molex to Sata cables for all my shucked whites.
Re:Disk Prices on Amazon by hatsubai on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @02:02PM (#22172877)
I believe this issue is only for certain NAS devices, or maybe only certain versions of the drives. For reference, my Synology DS2015xs didn't require any modifications to the four 10TB WD EasyStore drives I shucked that I grabbed from BestBuy.
Re:Disk Prices on Amazon by MayeulC on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @04:19PM (#22174148)
It happens when drives are compliant with SATA 3.3+, but not the power cable: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA#SATA_revision_3.3

> Power Disable feature allows for remote power cycling of SATA drives and a Rebuild Assist function that speeds up the rebuild process to help ease maintenance in the data center.

> The new Power Disable feature (similar to the SAS Power Disable feature) uses Pin 3 of the SATA power connector. Some legacy power supplies that provide 3.3 V power on Pin 3 would force drives with Power Disable feature to get stuck in a hard reset condition preventing them from spinning up. The problem can usually be eliminated by using a simple “Molex to SATA” power adaptor to supply power to these drives.

Re:Disk Prices on Amazon by esyir on Monday January 27, 2020 @11:20PM (#22166415)
Isn't that a bit totally though? I've heard that old one: molex to sata lose all your data
Re:Disk Prices on Amazon by joshstrange on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @09:55AM (#22169909)
I don’t think I’ve heard of this. It’s only the power that the cable is providing and I’ve been running for months if not 1-2 years without issue using this setup.
Re:Disk Prices on Amazon by PenguinCoder on Monday January 27, 2020 @10:17PM (#22166112)
Looking to build an inexpensive DAS array. Any other good ideas for storage/connectivity?
Re:Disk Prices on Amazon by joshstrange on Monday January 27, 2020 @10:51PM (#22166286)
I might not be the best person to ask. I’m running 3 servers at home currently that are all desktop towers. With a 3->4 (3x5.25”->4x3.5” [0]) converter I can fit 12 drives in each tower. Across all 3 I have just over 150TB. There are some nice server chassis that can handle 20 but I’m more comfortable with tower hardware and when I hear “SAS backplate” my eyes glaze over...

I’m a big fan of UnRaid for my server OS but I know it’s not as advanced as some offerings on the market. I enjoy it’s ease of use and management of VM’s/containers.

I’m happy to share more if you are interested.

[0] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DGZ42SM

Re:Disk Prices on Amazon by numpad0 on Monday January 27, 2020 @09:18PM (#22165833)
Shucked drives aren’t necessarily cheap, bare drives are always cheaper in my country
Re:Disk Prices on Amazon by joshstrange on Monday January 27, 2020 @10:52PM (#22166296)
What country is that if you don’t mind my asking? Unfortunately, in the USA shucked are often cheaper than bare. I wish bare were cheaper b/c you void the warranty when you shuck..