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Re:JetBrains to reimagine IntelliJ as text editor, add machi... by rntksi on Friday January 24, 2020 @09:55PM (#22144324)
I remember reading about JetBrains in terms of profitability and capital. If I remember correctly, JetBrains has never raised any money from outside sources and has become profitable very quickly.

In terms of IDE, whenever I get into unfamiliar territory, JetBrains products have always been better at onboarding me into it without having to configure much. For getting into Clojure for example, IntelliJ+Cursive was my preferred choice.

Re:JetBrains to reimagine IntelliJ as text editor, add machi... by Ididntdothis on Friday January 24, 2020 @10:32PM (#22144454)
It's definitely the type of company I like. They make useful products, charge reasonable money for them and make a profit.
Re:JetBrains to reimagine IntelliJ as text editor, add machi... by codysc on Friday January 24, 2020 @10:57PM (#22144555)
I agree with the sentiment entirely, but reflecting on what you wrote it's so strange that we have to call this out as a slightly novel way to do business.
Re:JetBrains to reimagine IntelliJ as text editor, add machi... by Ididntdothis on Friday January 24, 2020 @11:21PM (#22144650)
It almost feels quaint but very comforting. I wonder if there will be a pushback against companies with lots of investor money. It seems they are all doomed to grow quickly at any cost, shady or not.
Re:JetBrains to reimagine IntelliJ as text editor, add machi... by beamatronic on Saturday January 25, 2020 @01:15AM (#22145048)
Another good one is Scooter Software, makers of Beyond Compare.
Re:JetBrains to reimagine IntelliJ as text editor, add machi... by Ididntdothis on Saturday January 25, 2020 @09:27AM (#22146362)
Beyond Compare is a great piece of software. Almost perfect.
Re:JetBrains to reimagine IntelliJ as text editor, add machi... by Scarbutt on Saturday January 25, 2020 @12:23AM (#22144888)
Who knows for how long, they are in tough spot (hence the 'reimagine' in the title I guess), vscode is eating their market share fast, they probably already lost the web dev market they had and, for Java/C# is just a matter of time, a few years but today is decent.
Re:JetBrains to reimagine IntelliJ as text editor, add machi... by kyriakos on Saturday January 25, 2020 @02:03AM (#22145164)
Can only speak about technologies I work with so for PHP, JetBrains PHPStorm is probably the only decent IDE. WebStorm is also better for web development, primarily you get all the features out of the box without having to configure anything. I tried VSCode but found that I need to use plugins for everything and there are multiple plugins for the same feature, which means I have to try all of them to see what suits me. This is a time consuming process and I'd rather I use WebStorm instead :)
Re:JetBrains to reimagine IntelliJ as text editor, add machi... by lucidone on Saturday January 25, 2020 @12:36AM (#22144930)
I used vscode as my daily driver for a long time, I find webstorm is a much better experience, particularly because vscode is so centred around javascript and non-js plugins are lacking. I work in consulting, so my tech stack changes every few months. Being able to swap from pycharm to phpstorm for example and have familiar keybindings is nice.
Re:JetBrains to reimagine IntelliJ as text editor, add machi... by ygra on Saturday January 25, 2020 @02:35AM (#22145251)
I found VS Code to be quite pleasant for C# and Python as well.
Re:JetBrains to reimagine IntelliJ as text editor, add machi... by toyg on Saturday January 25, 2020 @04:15AM (#22145509)
Wut...? Vscode is “eating” the cheapest end of the market, where they were present (with the Community editions) but not seriously competing.

They are fine. Their financials are sound and they are plenty profitable. Their real threat is Github and similar services, who try to persuade users that they don’t need an IDE at all. Hence why they’ve come up with a collab alternative that they presented with great fanfare. Imho they should just buy gitlab and integrate with it a bit better.

Re:JetBrains to reimagine IntelliJ as text editor, add machi... by orsenthil on Friday January 24, 2020 @10:02PM (#22144344)
Thanks for the tip on IntelliJ + Cursive.

Their recent effort on EduTools was impressive way to teach many programming concepts.

Re:JetBrains to reimagine IntelliJ as text editor, add machi... by dominotw on Friday January 24, 2020 @10:23PM (#22144425)
cursive is third party product i think
Re:JetBrains to reimagine IntelliJ as text editor, add machi... by lemming on Friday January 24, 2020 @11:20PM (#22144645)
Yes, it is - I develop Cursive and I don't work for JetBrains.

That said, even though Cursive is third party, the way that IntelliJ is designed means that language extensions all tend to work in consistent ways. Rather than totally reinventing the wheel, I basically plug into standard IDE workflows for different types of extensions, and make them work for Clojure. This means that Cursive is able to feel like a JetBrains product, although sometimes less polished because I work on it on my own.

It's one of the things I love most about IntelliJ, all the support for different languages basically works in the same way and it's very easy for me to pick up a new language if there's support for it.

Re:JetBrains to reimagine IntelliJ as text editor, add machi... by monsieurbanana on Friday January 24, 2020 @11:31PM (#22144695)
Can I create plugins or modify intellij itself using clojure?
Re:JetBrains to reimagine IntelliJ as text editor, add machi... by lemming on Tuesday January 28, 2020 @09:18PM (#22176543)
You can, and Cursive is partially written in Clojure. I don't recommend it though, I'd definitely recommend using Kotlin.