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Re:How to Read Self-Help by ahoka on Friday January 24, 2020 @02:53PM (#22141831)
The Enchiridion is like 60 pages and contains the wisdom a lifetime.
Re:How to Read Self-Help by zentiggr on Friday January 24, 2020 @04:56PM (#22142859)
And many read it and can't digest it, let alone put it into practice.

A couple of very capable people I know can hear the story of something that happened to someone, and they get glazed eyes and can only say "Huh?" Then I rephrase it as "Imagine you were _______ and then _____ happened and afterward you were _____" and they're like "Well why didn't you just say that?"

Or the exact opposite.

Or like me. Give me an anecdote about something and I'll "Huh, interesting." Tell me about the reason you found it interesting, and I'm way more interested and engaged. Relate it to an event in my own life and now you've got me. But don't ever try to frame it that way for my wife, she'll get bored after the first five words.

It's not the message, it's what the listener gets from it.

Re:How to Read Self-Help by ahoka on Saturday January 25, 2020 @06:22AM (#22145843)
"It's not the message, it's what the listener gets from it."

I begin to think that if you don't understand the advice, you simply don't need it _yet_.

Re:How to Read Self-Help by zentiggr on Wednesday January 29, 2020 @01:04PM (#22183749)
I've sen quite a few quotes around that very point, similar to "You'll get the teacher you need when you need them" or

"You'll read it again and understand it on a whole different level" or

"The people in your life are there because you need them now. Don't mourn the loss of an acquaintance, it's because you don't need their lesson anymore"