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Re:Mozilla Wants Young People to Consider ‘Ethical Issues’ B... by jacquesm on Wednesday January 22, 2020 @03:25PM (#22121624)
My point is - and it is sad that this needs elaborating - that what works well for physics and maths problems does not necessarily work well for societal problems.

Changing a company from the inside is something that can only be done by those that are on the inside, hence my qualification that you should only join those companies that you can still stomach and then push as hard as you can in the right direction, rather than to join the very worst organization that you can find in the world, and one that you - hopefully - can not stomach.

Re:Mozilla Wants Young People to Consider ‘Ethical Issues’ B... by drdeca on Wednesday January 22, 2020 @06:52PM (#22123346)
It is an error to think that reductio only applies to “physics and math problems”. Logic is logic, it applies to all truths. (Though one has to be careful with things stated informally, to ensure that one is working with the claims that were intended. There is a danger of parsing an informal statement as if it were a formal statement, and as a result interpreting it to mean something other than what was meant.

Also, there may be a risk of people being more likely to derive in invalid ways when attempting the reductio, like making some hyperbolic statements, exaggerating the implications of a statement, and treating those exaggerations as if they actually logically follow. But this doesn’t make reductio an invalid technique, just one that people can fail to use properly.)

Like I said in the other comment, the objection should be that the derivation of the absurd from the premise is invalid. For example, pointing to the “that you can stomach” part of your claim, and saying that the derivation was invalid in neglecting that part of the statement.