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Re:Epic Tells Customers It Will Stop Google Cloud Integrations by foobarian on Monday January 20, 2020 @09:00PM (#22103726)
The company I work for does not deal with health-related data so I don't have direct exposure to the issues. But, I think there is something analogous happening with SOX compliance. It is a very expensive and slow bureaucracy that reacts very poorly to change. For example, once I was mortified to find out that due to me randomly logging in to some SOX-covered server, afterward there were multiple meetings between SOX people and my manager to justify that login. (Manager didn't tell me originally to shield me, I just happened to find out later). Any changes to SOX-covered systems have to go through many meetings with technically not very good SOX team.

As a result what we end up having is this shadow-structure/architecture at the company that is highly resistant to change, such that when new projects are discussed and designed, oftentimes decisions are made that are technically worse but save time due to not messing with the SOX structure.

I feel the Azure choice might be due to a similar phenomenon. Maybe the Azure people promise all sorts of out-of-the box HIPAA compliance and insurance and security etc. and the upper management is happy not having to deal with it. Price difference almost doesn't matter very much, if saving a few bucks means that you'll now have to hire and retain a team to design and maintain compliance in your AWS stack. I've no idea if this is actually what happens but it smells like it.

Re:Epic Tells Customers It Will Stop Google Cloud Integrations by o-__-o on Monday January 20, 2020 @09:23PM (#22103829)
If you work for a company that must follow regulations, then you should be aware of your impact. You will learn this as you advance further in your career.. however this post was written as though the regulations are there to cause you grief, but that can't be further from the truth. Think of it like this, the Boeing team is finding out the hard way what happens when you skirt steps in a highly regulated field.

SOX is the standard for change management for financial companies to prevent shadow changes that could enable another Enron, Worldcom, or Adelphia style cooking-of-books financial scandal. The idea is that all changes should be fully analyzed for their impact. If a change is found to have been made without going through the controls process then a review and an emergency after-the-fact change record must be created. This leads me to believe you did not just login to a server, unless you weren't supposed to have access in the first place (separation of duties requirement), but actually made a modification to that server without an approved change.

All this means that the system is very resilient and will not suffer random outages but most importantly, in the SOX world, there is no avenue for malicious changes to be introduced to critical financial systems and their data.

Re:Epic Tells Customers It Will Stop Google Cloud Integrations by closeparen on Monday January 20, 2020 @09:42PM (#22103909)
If you’ve never encountered a brain-dead compliance process, you’ve had an extraordinarily lucky career.

Even good and thoughtful regulations get interpreted into nonsensical bureaucratic nightmares by some companies’ compliance departments. The implementations that add disproportionate friction usually don’t achieve the intended benefit either. It’s not people choosing a convenience vs. safety tradeoff. It’s just people who don’t understand the subject matter at all.

Re:Epic Tells Customers It Will Stop Google Cloud Integrations by Reelin on Monday January 20, 2020 @10:11PM (#22104011)
Having worked in a lab environment heavily subject to OSHA regulation, I think you are both correct. I've been personally subjected to brain-dead interpretations on multiple occasions, but I'm also absolutely certain that in the absence of any regulation the environment would have been absurdly dangerous. On the balance, I'll favor the regulation.